 Conspiracy theories, I need some help |
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 Nov 6 2006, 10:28 PM
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Harlequin  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 331 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 861  |
We're pretty close to starting our first game of SR4 and I've decided to play a... I'm loathe to call him conspiracy nut, but something along those lines. He'll have a couple of conspiracies he'll believe in and a knowledge skill out it.
But I need some help with finding some good conspiracies. Do you guys have any? Maybe something from Lone Gunman? Or something of your own? |
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Nov 6 2006, 10:40 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Who blew up Dunkelzahn.
The death of Pres Haefner New Revolution Ordo Maximus Lowfyr. Anything with Lowfyr New Islamic Jihad controlled by a shedim Sleeper WinterNight Agents |
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Nov 6 2006, 10:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: 19-May 03 From: In your base eating your food. Member No.: 4,607 |
Sounds like a good concept. In our game our rigger has the Conspiracy Theories knowledge skill. There's been some wacky results. |
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Nov 6 2006, 10:57 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
"Old "MK Ultra Brainwashing
NASA/ARES/EVO Mars landing Immortal Elves Project Omen (read Shadows of Europe) The Black Lodge Bug Spirits EVERYWHERE! The catholic Church/The Vatican/The Curia/ The Templars/New Jesuits/Vigilia Dr Halbestrom Edit: I guess i should ask jsut how familiar you are with these things before I go off with more. Doesn't help naming things if you've never heard of 'em I guess. :) |
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Nov 7 2006, 12:07 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
Hey, L.D's title is Harlequin. He probably knows a lot about true conspiracys, and nothing about the fake ones, which are way more fun :D.
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Nov 7 2006, 12:12 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
The trick of course is knowing which is which
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Nov 7 2006, 12:38 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
Dunkelzahn is in hiding with Elvis who was in reality an immortal elf.
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Nov 7 2006, 01:12 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Of course he is. Enjoying the view from the mother ship.
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Nov 7 2006, 01:33 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
Tupac is rapping to him his serene lyrics and Osoma bin Laden is teaching them how to avoid the UCAS :-)
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Nov 7 2006, 02:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 10-April 06 Member No.: 8,447 |
Anticorporate Conspiracies:
Deus is still in charge of Renraku, he's just in hiding. Invae are the result of Ares in an attempt to increase weapon sales. Toxic spirits were a failed experiment of the corperations to make their polution useful. Humanis Conspiracies: The Tiers hold the goal of clensing the earth of humanity. Ghouls are the first step of a project to make goblinization contagious. Religious Conspiracies: The great dragons are manifestations of the devil. Being awakened is not something that one is born with, merely someone who sold their soul to satan. |
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Nov 7 2006, 02:36 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Care to refresh my memory? I seem to have forgotten this one.
Sort of related but going in a slightly different direction, how about the Betrayal section from Threats 2 and Ares current, well at least 2062 current, dealings with the bug spirits? |
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Nov 7 2006, 02:45 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Project Omen, SoE, what was started by the aristos / Black Lodge to get a bunch of young diviners available not long after the awakening to help them take control of France. Yohan DeKervelek is a survivor after they killed them off once their job was done. You'd think a bunch of diviners would've seen that comin'. Go fig.
Happy to explain any others, the conspiracy 'theories' are probably my favorite part of SR. LoneGunmen and Conspir-I-See are my heroes. 8) |
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Nov 7 2006, 03:49 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Ah yes. I know the plot but forgot the codename they used for it.
Hey L.D, jsut out of interest where is your group going to be set? Got a few Euro-centric ideas nut that's not really very helpful if your PC's are never going to be setting foot outside of Seattle. :) |
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Nov 7 2006, 04:30 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 14-August 06 Member No.: 9,113 |
Here's a nice low scale theory:
The Firewatch teams moved to Seattle are there to take care of undesirables, not deal with any sort of threat. |
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Nov 7 2006, 04:37 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
For what purpose? Practice? Otherwise they could just hire the runners on tail chaser runs against each other.
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Nov 7 2006, 05:00 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 14-August 06 Member No.: 9,113 |
You'd need lots of well trained runners to keep a large scale, extermination of Sinless quiet. |
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Nov 7 2006, 05:02 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Why exterminate the SINless? Then who are they gonna sell the Ares Predator to?!
More Conspiracies: Human Nation The Exchange Church of the Dragon (pervy dragon fanciers!) Aleph Society Proteus AG The Draco Foundation (suuuuure they're non profit) Atlantean Foundation (suuuuuure they're searchign for Atlantis) Anything with Aztechnology |
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Nov 7 2006, 07:29 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Hehe, had the same idea a while back: http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?show...piracy+theories |
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Nov 7 2006, 04:00 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Make your own conspiracy theory!
Person Present tense verb Nationality Location Flavor Plural noun Person was last seen Verb with a naked Nationality man at Location. His/her/its pockets full of Flavor Pl. Noun! |
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Nov 7 2006, 04:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Salt Lake UT Member No.: 9,299 |
OOOO! MadLibs! I love them.
Hmm... Wait, are we allowed to use any dumpshock members? i pick 1, OneTrikPony 2, Grindering 3, Nezumi 4, Cognitive Resonance 5, Fistandantilus3.0 :grinbig: |
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Nov 7 2006, 04:43 PM
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Harlequin Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 331 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 861 |
Wow. Cool. Thanks! I'll try to shoot some answers to everyone. But first to all who contributed. I'll pick a few that he'll believe in and the rest he'll know about but think too "far out" to be believable. I'm trying to make him a bit more mellow than the Lone Gunman... more like Mother in Sneakers. I want him to belive in at least one that I as a player know is wrong (got it covered with a wrong Jetblack conspiracy) and something that is right (but which no one else believes in) and of course a lot more than that (but whether or not they're true doesn't really matter).
@Grinder Thanks for the link. It hold a lot of good ideas. I'm definitely gonna let him believe in a cult that worships Eris. :D @Draconis Just what I was thinking and hoping for. :) @fistandantilus3.0 I've heard about most of 'em and know a bit about most of those, but some I've never heard about (like "Old "MK Ultra Brainwashing) and... well... If you could tell me in which books I can find more info that'd be really helpful. I like the "Anything with Aztechnology" part. :D @FlakJacket I don't really know... We're starting out in Seattle (or rather on a burning boat in the middle of the ocean with a cargohold full of wasps and shapeshifters :grinbig: or not...), but there's a strong possibility for travel. I wouldn't mind knowing about them anyway. Just so he can throw them out in the middle of conversation. :) Edit: That's what I get for taking too long to write a post. Thanks nezumi! :rotfl: This post has been edited by L.D: Nov 7 2006, 04:45 PM |
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Nov 7 2006, 04:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Note Calonna Member No.: 241 |
That's easy: He was killed by a secret cabal of UCAS IRS agents that were upset that Dunk hadn't paid his taxes in a few centuries and felt he was setting a bad example fo the rest of the country (or at least that's what a conspiracy theory nut character I play believes) |
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Nov 7 2006, 05:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Salt Lake UT Member No.: 9,299 |
IIRC Part of Dunk's bid for Pres. was that he did pay back taxes when he became a citizen of the UCAS. I think there was some kind of audit when he decaired his primary residence to be in the 'states.
Download the copy of Dunk's will from SRRPG.com there's 101+ conspiracies right there and most of them will never be developed so you can do anything you want with them. |
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Nov 7 2006, 05:59 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
Hail Eris! All hail Discordia! I'll just toss a few general conspiracies out there. Sadly, these are all ones I've heard in person, and are present day, but they could be expanded.... The Illuminati (They sort of count - I know they exist - I used to work for them. Well, their online counterparts.) The Illuminati contains hundreds of minor conspiracies. The Gnomes of Zurich - a group of bankers that control the world's money supply are my favorites. Charlemange's line - all politicians and rulers of europe and the us are descended from Charlemange. His family was far more profilic than is generally known, and you can trace ever major politician back to him. They all use their influence to insure that any candidate that has a chance is also part of their line. People that know this are typically part of his line themselves. (That was the weirdest conversation I've ever had with a live person. It started out with general discussions of history, and let to them telling me they were destined to become president). Russian weather satelites. Hurricane Katrina was caused by the russians retaliating against the US. Apparently, the US government evaporated a number of lakes in Russia, and sucked the water up in to large cloud formations, which were then routed via jetstream back to the US. However, Russian former-KGB learned of this, and used satelites to divert the course of the clouds, and disrupt them, causing Katrina. The CIA introduced crack cocaine to the slums, in order to combat drug lords in South America - if the junkies picked crack instead, the drug lords would lose their customers, and the CIA could wipe them out, then just stop the flow of crack. Tom Cruise is the reincarnation of Xenu the greek. |
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Nov 7 2006, 07:37 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I've considered keeping the USSR together in my SR games both because it contributes towards the 80's feel of stuff, but also because it gives so much ammunition for conspiracy theories.
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