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Oct 24 2003, 04:28 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
As I don't have the appropriate source book I ask my fellow gamers for aid. Here is the situation. Game time is 2058 in the month of September. Has Strain III been released yet? Also can any one tell me if any attempt was made to clear out any of the great museums in Chicago before UCAS declared it a containment area? I am assuming no but could be wrong. Obviously if my conjectures hold true then this makes for some possible Shadowruns to locations like the Field Museum or the Museum of History and Art. I am thinking the display areas and the immediate basement storage areas would have been looted or vandalized but the sub-basement vaults may still have items of worth hidden away. A friend of mine who used to work in the Field museum once told me that it only had 10% of its collection ever on display at any one time. She also said that their were crates sitting in the lower floors that had not been opened sense they were delivered back in the 30's and 40's. Any suggestions or ideas would be helpful.
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Oct 24 2003, 06:24 PM
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Senior GM ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
Target UCAS indicates that Ares' "operation extermination" (including Strain III) started 22 February 2058 and the Containment Zone was abolished by the end of the month. You can, of course, make this happen in your campaign earlier, later, or not at all.
Many of the great museums lost their most valuable items years before the arrival of the bugs. (From The Neo-Anarchist's Guide to North America.) Starting in 2029, insurance companies refused to insure art in Chicago museums. The Chicago corporations picked up the art, convincing the owners that it was better to keep the art in Chicago, even if it was no longer public property, than to transfer it to another city. Valuable art pieces became scattered throughout the city in major corporation buildings. The few people in these buildings who had the resources to get out the day the containment zone went up were generally not inclined to worry about art. While the most valuable pieces became scattered, museums still retained vast holdings when the bugs came. Most smaller museums had their public displays looted, but the Field Museum was secured by Jason Two-Spirits and operated as the third-largest haven for humans within the zone. He protected the museum contents, and in fact his followers worked around the clock to discover what items within the thousands of artifacts and foci had properties useful in fighting the bugs. |
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Oct 24 2003, 06:33 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
Hmmm, interesting. Field museum may not be the best target then. How ever that still leaves the Art and History Museum and the observatory down on the lake front. Last time I checked they had lots of moon rocks there. There is also a museum that deals with what has become known as the middle east. Can't remember the name of the museum though. I find it funny though that the UCAS releases Strain III and then within a month drops the quarantine of the city. Not a lot of time allowed for verification that the city is bug free.
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Oct 24 2003, 06:36 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Where in the timeline did Ares drop the nuke, as an opening Salvo or as the final blow?
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Oct 24 2003, 06:38 PM
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Senior GM ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
More like 6 days from start to end. Yes, some people think there might be some bugs left. :)
The Nuke was what started it all. |
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Oct 24 2003, 06:59 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
They only waited six days? Does any one else see problems with this? Not questioning the information you understand. I am questioning the person who wrote this particular part of Shadowrun canon.
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Oct 24 2003, 07:09 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 26-March 03 Member No.: 4,336 |
Burning Bright being one of my favorite books, I can answer regarding the decision to use the nuke.
Basically, the KE firewatch teams attacked an ex-UB warehouse and placed shaped on the floor to open the way down into the hive so they could cleanse the depths. Unfortunately, they disturbed the main North-american hive, and hundreds upon hundreds of bugs poured out. Roger Soaring-Owl, CEO of Knight Errant, who was physically there, immediately attempted to deploy the small tactical nuke, however the vehicle it was to be deployed from was interfered with in some way, presumably just knocked over, and then the command van was rent apart and the story skips ahead roughly a week. The hero of the story meets up with what is left of knight errant, and they receive a burst transmission from Soaring-Owl, who managed to escape the CZ, authorizing them to use Damocles (the Code-name for the nuke) against the hive wherever they found it reconstituted. The bug hive was setting up in the power plant at Cermak and Racine. They were just about to release a new hatching of bugs that would presumably be enough to overrun the entire CZ, and from that point, possibly overpower the forces stationed outside. To complicate matters, they were raising a massively powerful magical barrier to protect themselves from assault. To shorten the story, they flew the nuke in, and it detonated just after the barrier went up, wiping out the primary bug hive. The blast itself was contained by the barrier, as was the radiation. The nuke itself was extremely small, somewhere around half a kiloton to 2 kilotons. *edit* Oh yeah, Ares did this without the permission or knowledge of the UCAS government. Dunno if it was ever made known who was responsible for it, the original bug city book implied not. |
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Oct 24 2003, 08:35 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
So how soon after the nuke was used did they deploy Strain III?
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Oct 24 2003, 09:27 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 26-March 03 Member No.: 4,336 |
several years. bug city happened in 2053 iirc, and thats when they nuked it. Strain 3 was like 2058 wasnt it?
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Oct 24 2003, 09:54 PM
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Senior GM ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
According to the timeline (Bug City p. 128):
A huge hive busts out Aug 22, 2055. The containment zone starts Aug 23, initially with UCAS military and National Guards who fire upon citizens. Bulldozing starts to create the wall. Supply drops start Aug 26. The nuclear blast was (will be?) Oct 1. The wall is completed Oct 4. The general public on the outside still believes it is a Vitas plague. |
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Oct 24 2003, 11:09 PM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Note also, that the Field Museum was completely devoid of all life when the wall came down. No located survivors and missing all magical items. This has never been explained to my knowledge.
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Oct 24 2003, 11:23 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
I thought the field Museum had been made into a refuge by the humans? Did I misunderstand this or did the inhabitants vanish?
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Oct 24 2003, 11:27 PM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
They vanished "right" before Ares Firewatch clears out the Containment Zone.
This post has been edited by Kanada Ten: Oct 24 2003, 11:28 PM |
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Oct 24 2003, 11:34 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
That could be a very interesting hook for later adventures. The players raid the museum only to see signs of long term occupation but no people. More inportantly no artifacts which means a very unhappy Mr. Johnson.
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Oct 25 2003, 12:39 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 654 |
Anyone ever work with the idea of Soaring Owl having been posessed?
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Nov 1 2003, 06:54 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
Does any one have access to a map of Chicago around the end of the quarintine period? Just prior to the lifting of it or right after?
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Nov 2 2003, 01:57 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 31-October 03 Member No.: 5,779 |
If I remember right the Chicago Museum of Science & Industry has a Spitfire and a German U-Boat on display. Something to keep in mind if you have any Riggers.
Weirdly enough I just got back from a trip to Chicago and while I was there I picked up a bunch of Road Maps and brouchures from various landmarks becuase my GM was planning on running a game there as well. |
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Nov 2 2003, 06:31 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
The U-Boat has a big door cut in its side though:(. I guess a rigger could patch it but would you wanna trust your life to it? Lol.
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Nov 3 2003, 02:30 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,067 |
I'd recommend finding a copy of Target: UCAS. It takes place -right- after Dunk's assassination and Haffener being sworn in, and details what it was like in the CZ when Ares swept in and unleashed FAB on the city. From what I understand, FAB-III turned out to be -much- worse for Chicago than the nuke, at least in terms of astral. After the FAB incident, Ares pulled all of its resources out, and declared Chicago "purged"... And a mess for the UCAS gov't to clean up. I think glimpses of what it is like there now are given in Target: Matrix (or the core Matrix book, not sure which has the hinkfo on the NooseNet), a bit in Shadows of North America, and of course, various sources here and there that deal in that region.
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Nov 6 2003, 06:06 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
Have that on my to pick up list along with Bug City. Considering how much is below ground in Chicago one has to wonder just how many insect spirits survived Strain III. One would also wonder what may have been woken up by all the deaths and the warping of the astral plains in the area.
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Nov 7 2003, 03:30 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
Additional question: Does any one know if the locations for the big eights facilities in Chicago are indicated any were?
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Nov 7 2003, 11:28 PM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Do you mean the megacorp Chicago locations? Hum, I know NAGtNA made refrence to Fuchi. I don't know how many of the Big Eight were in Chicago. I think UCAS Steel and the Truman towers are mentioned in said book. Ares has "the Dome" in Bug City, its on a map.
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Nov 8 2003, 01:11 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
Does "Bug" City have a map of Chicago as it appears at that time? That would make life simpler. All I have to do then is find a copy of bug city, lol.
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Nov 8 2003, 02:48 AM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Bug City has tons of really tiny maps. It has one full pager, IIRC for the whole CZ, and then little area maps for each "sanctuary".
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Nov 8 2003, 03:03 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 348 Joined: 20-June 03 Member No.: 4,782 |
Chicago has alot of tunnels underneith it. Tunnels on top of tunnels and on top of tunnels. A labrienth if you will. Remember the Chicago flood? Caused by a 3 foot hole made by a piling being installed in the river. Oops.
Keep that in mind. |
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