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post Nov 19 2006, 06:24 PM
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So basically she is putting atlantis back together but will never really get it back up in the air.
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post Nov 19 2006, 06:51 PM
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Which makes no sense. Why does she care about Thera? They were the enemy. Blood Wood, on the other hand...

Making Alachia Hecate was a bad idea (it doesn't even totally fit, in retrospect of having read ED. But then, what makes it not fit was written after it was decided, which makes it really weird/bad). Making Hecate Blatavaska was a really bad idea.
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post Nov 19 2006, 07:08 PM
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Agreed
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post Nov 19 2006, 07:39 PM
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:shrug: I'm not sure what Alachia calls herself in 2070.

Here's from the Ancient Files on Hecate:

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High possibility that this is an immortal, known personally by Harlequin, versed in Horrors and blood magic. Current gossip says: Sheila Blatavska, Alachia or Aina. I think Aina fits better than Alachia, personally, but you decide.


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Hecate is a mystery.  The Lone Gunman in Threats believes she is Sheila Blatavaska, the head of the Atlantean Foundation.  Lou Prosperi commented that she was Alachia, who ran the Atlantean Foundation under the guise of Sheila.  Personally, I've always harbored the notion that she is the immortal elf Aina, both for her quips with Harlequin and intimations of her history.  Re-evaluation of all her comments are leaning me towards Alachia, however.


It's not specifically settled, so if you don't like an answer, by all means don't use it.

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post Nov 19 2006, 09:00 PM
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Which makes no sense. Why does she care about Thera? They were the enemy. Blood Wood, on the other hand...

Well with Shadows of Europe mentioning Ukraine's expansionist tendencies and their 'Friendly Society'...
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post Nov 19 2006, 09:55 PM
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It's not specifically settled, so if you don't like an answer, by all means don't use it.

Ancient History and I have bounced this back and forth a number of times. I believe that the last time we did it, I'm pretty sure that someone official dropped in and confirmed that Alachia = Hecate = Blatavska (can't find the damn post now though :( ). I do know tha AH doesn't really like that answer either.
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post Nov 19 2006, 11:07 PM
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Lou Prosperi thinks she is Blatavaska, Robert Derie doesn't, both of them have more Shadowrun writing credits than I do... but the really really official answer is this:

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Individual gamemasters may also determine for themselves the true identity of Sheila Blatavaska.


That's the final final word, and I am pretty sure that FanPro does not intend to invalidate that statement at any time.

Giving a straight canonical answer as to whether Blatavaska is or is not Alachia would potentially invalidate peoples' campaigns, so I don't think it's on the table. Hecate isn't even a member of Jackpoint, so she's unlikely to get a lot of face time in forthcoming publications.

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post Nov 19 2006, 11:37 PM
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That's cool. It was definitely Lou that I remember making that statement (in Master Shake's thread?).

Speaking of Jackpoint, is there a comprehensive list of members available anywhere?
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post Nov 20 2006, 12:04 AM
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That's cool. It was definitely Lou that I remember making that statement (in Master Shake's thread?).

Speaking of Jackpoint, is there a comprehensive list of members available anywhere?

probably. the freelancers have to know who they can use.

in fact, i think there's a list somewhere on dumpshock with the current list of 'allowed' shadowtalk people.

if i'm remembering right, it was a long ways back though.
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post Nov 20 2006, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (Jaid)
QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 19 2006, 06:37 PM)
That's cool. It was definitely Lou that I remember making that statement (in Master Shake's thread?).

Speaking of Jackpoint, is there a comprehensive list of members available anywhere?

probably. the freelancers have to know who they can use.

in fact, i think there's a list somewhere on dumpshock with the current list of 'allowed' shadowtalk people.

if i'm remembering right, it was a long ways back though.

Last I checked, that list was protected by an NDA, so I can't release it. Seems silly, but there you go. Peter or Rob could release it, however.

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post Nov 20 2006, 12:17 AM
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well, a quick search turned up this.

make of that what you will.
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post Nov 20 2006, 12:24 AM
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List of 58 or so Jackpoint posters courtesy of shadowrunrpg.com with what they specialise in and the odd bit of personal data.

Edit: Beaten to the punch. :)
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post Nov 20 2006, 12:28 AM
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Yep. That's the list. Not my perogative to release it, but I think I can confirm that that is in fact the Jackpoint list.

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post Nov 20 2006, 12:37 AM
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I thought my ears were burning yesterday. That is, indeed, The List. However, as you will note from Runner Havens, local experts and other runners are occaisionally invited to participate and info-dump as well.
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post Nov 20 2006, 01:48 AM
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Yep. That's the list.

Ah ok, thanks. I had that one already, and thought there might have been an updated one. :)
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post Nov 20 2006, 01:49 AM
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QUOTE (Ancient History)
However, as you will note from Runner Havens, local experts and other runners are occaisionally invited to participate and info-dump as well.

So does that mean that I can still hold out hope of another appearance? ;) :D
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post Nov 20 2006, 01:52 AM
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Hell, I'm lucky to hold out hope for another appearance by yours truly. :P But we'll see how things go.
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post Nov 20 2006, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE (FrankTrollman)

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Hecate is a mystery.  The Lone Gunman in Threats believes she is Sheila Blatavaska, the head of the Atlantean Foundation.  Lou Prosperi commented that she was Alachia, who ran the Atlantean Foundation under the guise of Sheila.  Personally, I've always harbored the notion that she is the immortal elf Aina, both for her quips with Harlequin and intimations of her history.  Re-evaluation of all her comments are leaning me towards Alachia, however.


It's not specifically settled, so if you don't like an answer, by all means don't use it.

Well, I'm using Lou Prosperi's statements that it was intended. Seeing as though he was the FASA Earthdawn line developer, that carries more than a little weight for me.
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post Nov 20 2006, 02:43 AM
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Besides, even if the Atlantean foundation is run by an elf from the blood wood, I don't beleive she's trying to reconstruct Thera as much as LOOT it.
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