Honk Kong based games... |
Honk Kong based games... |
Nov 27 2006, 10:35 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 20-October 05 From: Wgtn, New Zealand. Member No.: 7,862 |
Hey all,
I am running my SR4 game in Hong Kong and as far as I can tell, I may in fact be the only person in the world to be doing this, though I am sure thats an exageration. :-? Now if anyone else out there is running their game in HK, I'm dead keen to know what information sources are they using aside from "SR4 - Runners Havens" and the old Asia book? Regards Glock-9mm (NZ) |
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Nov 27 2006, 10:38 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
I'm big on Google Earth for that location.
-Frank |
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Nov 27 2006, 10:43 PM
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The back-up plan Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
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Nov 28 2006, 04:19 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
I'm cheating. Using a lot of my own personal knowledge. However, as HK is very much online, there are tons of online resources to use. Searching for tourist information is the best bet, there are tons of pormotional information to use to get a feel for the place. Lots of it is in English too, legacy of being a former colony. Google earth is awesome. |
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Nov 28 2006, 04:44 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Yeah, I grabbed some screen caps of Google Earth, patched them together, and printed it out on multiple pages. Unfortunately it seems that Google earth doesn't have road coverage in HK, and also the resolution of the photos are far less than in NA. :(
DireRadiant, do you have a list of links you've used? I'll see what I can dreg up of what I've grabbed off the Internets. EDIT: Personally what I'm looking for are street maps. Plus I'm trying to get a handle on the true size and shape of Kowloon Walled City so I can edit it into the Google Earth picture. @Glock-9mm Outside of Shadows of Asia, which I find gives great colour for the surrounding region, there isn't that much direct HK coverage. Which is why I was so thrilled to have it in RH, I've been waiting for more HK for a long time. I'm pretty sure there were just a couple of blubs here and there, all of which are covered in Runners Havens with more detail to boot. Although I suppose Synner could weigh in on that more definatively since his research for the piece would involve tracking down every prior HK reference in SR canon. |
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Nov 28 2006, 04:56 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
I cheat, I already know what I'm looking for so I often go direct. e.g. I knew what hotels and hospitals and specific clubs etc to look for so I just find them, and then project them into the future. For what is likely the best general guide Hong Kong Tourist Board That's a good index and coverage of the touristy flavor stuff. |
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Nov 28 2006, 04:56 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
Indeed - Demonseed Elite's blog at http://www.sprawledout.com/ has more information that would be useful.
I'd also watch a lot of movies. Black Rain and Bladerunner being the first two that come to mind. Then play a couple games of Munchkin Fu, and throw in a dash of Feng Shui. "You see a Hong Kong Tong wielding a Hong Kong Bong wearing a Hong Kong Thong singing a Hong Kong Song. He's casting a spell." |
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Nov 28 2006, 05:15 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Regarding KWC there is stuff for the current day park out there, I've got a map for the current day park. Unfortunately it doesn't have a scale or size marked. Best guess I have is based on it's area (about 31ha) which I've combined with the tourist type map that suggests about twice the distance East-West as North-South, which brings a size or nearly 4km by 8 km (or 2.5 miles by 5 miles). Is that about right?
There are also a few photos out there of the old Walled City slum in the late 80's in the process of being torn down. They really evoke images of what it might be like in 2070. But it seems like it is just the core we were looking at, with this huge park all around it (it's on the Wiki page for KWC Park) so I'm guessing it is in the latter stages of development of the park. |
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Nov 28 2006, 06:31 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
KWC is small. 6.5 acres. Think in terms of 1 to 4 square city blocks. |
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Nov 28 2006, 07:06 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Actually, the blog belongs to Demonseed Elite, appropriately enough the author of the H-K chapter. |
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Nov 28 2006, 07:39 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
Bah. Details. I'm not even sure what you're talking about, as my post *clearly* states D-E. I'm not sure why you choose to edit my posts and call me out. It's because I play an ork, isn't it? Synner's a member of Alamos 3k! |
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Nov 28 2006, 08:29 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
My blog will be getting more HK info in the future too. It's just been backburnered at the moment because Corp Enclaves is taking all my free time.
I also know of a great site that had pictures of the old Walled City. I should still have it bookmarked, I'll check when I get out of work. |
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Nov 28 2006, 08:48 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 9-December 03 From: Greenville, SC Member No.: 5,889 |
I've started marking all the locations and regions mention in Runner Havens in Google Earth. At the moment, it has all of the major regions marked out with overlays. I've just barely started on the actual locations though. For those that are interested, the work in progress is available here. You may need to turn the transparency up a bit for the overlays to become visible. That the little slider underneath the Temporary Places listing on the left hand side. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the sector boundaries, I just drew them so that they looked right compared to the map in Runner Havens. Hopefully I'll have some time over the upcoming holidays to finish marking the individual locations. |
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Nov 28 2006, 09:58 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
This site, surprisningly enough entitled Kowloon Walled City, has some excellent photographs of the place from shortly before it was pulled down. Check out the aerial view circa 1971 in the History section as well the ones down the right hand side of the Perception and Architecture pages.
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Nov 28 2006, 10:23 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Is that the elite executive branch of Alamos 20000? |
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Nov 28 2006, 10:44 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
Those would be the guys in the New Revolution... ;-)
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Nov 28 2006, 10:59 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
They started small, and grew over time. |
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Nov 28 2006, 11:04 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Like fungus.
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Nov 28 2006, 11:12 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Or Microsoft.
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Nov 28 2006, 11:18 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,076 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Rock Hill, SC Member No.: 7,655 |
I don't use any geographical resources aside from Shadows of Asia and Runner Havens for my own Hong Kong game. However, I do go for cultural resources in order to help me paint a better picture of what life in East Asia, specifically Hong Kong, is like and how different it is from the Western world.
For my own Hong Kong-based campaign, I've done a good bit of reading on the concept of Wuxing -- not just the magical tradition, but the mysticism and philosophy behind it in general. Wuxing permeates just about every aspect of Chinese philosophical thought, so it's worth knowing if you're looking to run in Hong Kong. For instance, I give every NPC (and even every PC) a wuxing elemental affiliation, and depending on how one individual interacts with another, they'll get a +2 dice bonus. (For example, Metal cuts Wood, so if a Metal-affiliated individual fires a gun at a Wood-affiliated person, he will get the bonus... Also, Fire generates Earth, so if a Fire-affiliated person does something to help the Earth-affiliated person, both parties get +2 to their pools.) The magician in the group is actually a wujen, so I put "Discover elemental affiliation" under 3 hits on the Assensing test for him, so he could theoretically figure out the affiliation of an NPC and pass that information along. I've also managed to incorporate the I-Ching into our game. I pull up the 8x8 I-Ching grid, and at various points in the session I'll roll two d8 dice. Depending on how the dice fall, I consult the table and figure out which hexagram is "drawn." I read the description of the hexagram, and then slant the campaign in that way in order to incorporate it into the game -- With special surprises if I ever roll "Brightness Hiding," or hexagram #36. It's quite a fun exercise for me, the GM, as it keeps me on my toes. I highly recommend looking into the various major religions that are native to that region of the world and having some background knowlege in them. Eastern religion is highly syncretic -- meaning you aren't exclusively of one faith or the other. With Chinese folk mythology, Hinduism, your various sects of Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, ancestor worship, Wuxing philosophy and a host of smaller religions in the region, faith and belief are a great deal more complex, especially since they can be picked from like a salad bar. These are just things I've done for my Hong Kong game. I may have strayed off topic a bit, but I have massive fun running in the FEZ. First off, it's not Seattle, and second it's got such a totally different feel to it. It's refreshing, and in my opinion, well thought out enough to provide lots of fun for a gaming group that's interested in playing there. |
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Nov 29 2006, 02:58 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
That's the site I mentioned above but hadn't dug up the link for yet. Thanks! |
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