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 Dec 25 2006, 07:46 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950  |
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Dec 25 2006, 07:47 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
You've watched Buffy, haven't you?
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Dec 25 2006, 07:53 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 |
Once or twice, though that has been a standard wise donkey response of mine for a long time.
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Dec 25 2006, 07:54 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Lofwyr's. The invae seem to exist just fine.
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Dec 25 2006, 02:37 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
*STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB* ~J |
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Dec 25 2006, 03:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 475 Joined: 17-June 02 From: Concord University, Athens, WV Member No.: 2,880 |
Me too. But when I do it, it's usually intended to be a slight nod to Kosh Naranek. ...who does it on Buffy? I've managed to avoid seeing anything from the "Buffyverse" (or similar shows such as "Charmed" or "Angel"), aside from the original movie... |
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Dec 25 2006, 04:50 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
The last season of Angel is one of the best things that was ever on television, making it worth watching the early seasons just to understand what is going on in season five.
Of course, I don't suggest that you have to watch the entire fourth season - that's really crappy television. It's ironic. Angel went around being a decently mid-grade adventure show for three seasons, then they made a season that was really really bad, and then they got it together and made high art for the last one. I don't knwo why that happened. -Frank |
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Dec 25 2006, 06:19 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Because I started watching it!
But the incident in question is when Angel is asking Buffy about their cheesy romance future together, and when he presents her with a few options, she says "Yes" uncertainly. And SL, I'm proud of you. You have definitely grown. |
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Dec 25 2006, 10:58 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Well, I have been eating more.
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Dec 27 2006, 06:48 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 30-September 05 Member No.: 7,793 |
Schwartzkopf. |
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Dec 27 2006, 07:02 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Charcoalgrin.
~J |
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Dec 27 2006, 07:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
I'm not familar with that one. Whats the supposed deal with him/her? |
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Dec 27 2006, 07:22 AM
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According to AH:
He's a university professor. He can't be all bad. ...Right? |
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Dec 27 2006, 07:24 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Nah... It's not like he wrote a book advocating the creation of a useless missile defense system. |
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Dec 27 2006, 07:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Ohhh now I remember him. Right.
And yeah, if he's teaching metas he's likely 'one of the better ones' like Dion. They certainly seem to be the exception rather than the rule however. |
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Dec 27 2006, 07:36 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 30-September 05 Member No.: 7,793 |
Mein Fuhrer! I can walk! <hr>
He's teaching, which implies to me that he is walking around in human form most of the time (you try fitting a great dragon into a lecture hall). If he is working in a university, he is likely also publishing papers and such on magical theory, which seems to be a very out-of-character thing to do for a dragon (aren't they supposed to hoard information, too?) Finally, if he's got old students running around after magical artifacts for him, that seems to imply that he has a close one-on-one relationship with metas (or that he's got some other hold over them)... |
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Dec 27 2006, 07:46 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Well of course he's got some hold over them. I can easily see the following somewhat evil scenarios. A) Agree to run around collecting stuff for me after you graduate or I will instead fail you! If you run from me I will instead eat you alive! B) Blackmail C) The assumed prestige/wonder in working with a 'friendly' dragon. D) He's using modern brainwashing techniques uppon them. E) All of the above |
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Dec 27 2006, 04:36 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Actually, I was describing one of my professors.
Page 157 of Dragons of the Sixth World would disagree with you. |
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Dec 27 2006, 06:03 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
just because a dragon is teaching people doesn't make him a good guy. you have to look at what he's teaching, and most importantly, why he's teaching.
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Dec 28 2006, 04:02 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Well the what is known, as in magical theory. The why is a whoooole other ballgame. |
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Dec 28 2006, 06:33 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
there's a lot of magic out there, and a lot of theory behind it. putting the right people on the path to the right paradigm can have a big impact. for instance, you could teach people that blood magic isn't so bad, or that elves corrupt magic, or whatever. you wouldn't put it in so many words, of course, but your curriculum would be subtlely slanted in certain directions.
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Dec 28 2006, 07:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
True but some one would notice that rather quickly.
Besides, much of magic is incomprehensible. Mathematical formula = Fireball Calling uppon the great spirits for magic = Fireball Doing some wierd ass dance and chanting = Fireball Thinking Fireball = Fireball Hitting the detonator on an R12 FAE = Very big Fireball |
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Dec 28 2006, 08:20 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
if a GD didn't want it to be noticed quickly, i don't think it would be. these are beings that manipulate the world behind the scenes, making moves no one ever finds out about. manipulating a classroom should be easy. |
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Dec 28 2006, 08:50 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Yes, but a classroom isnt a cave or boardroom. Students chat with other folk about stuff their teacher does/says alot I found.
God knows when I was in colledge I heard plenty of stuff about other folks teachers and their teaching methods etc. In the classroom itself I'm sure it's pretty much all fluffy and by the book. Behind the scenes/afterclass etc. Well thats another story. Reminds me of these two movies, I dont remember the name of em, but these select group of students mess around with prototype muscle enhancement/replacement etc. |
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Dec 28 2006, 08:19 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
what i'm saying is that he doesn't have to say "elves are evil!" in class, or even reference the idea, to plant it in his students' heads. he can simply present them with subtlely slanted ideas, give them hints and clues in such a way as to pique their curiosity, etcetera. many of the students will end up coming to the conclusions he wants them to come to "on their own". if there's an elven student in the class, he could call attention to that elf frequently--all the while grading the elf more strictly than anyone else. the end result would be that everyone would hear about the elf a lot, but would see that the elf's grades don't live up to the hype. a really good manipulator can hide his manipulations well, such that those being manipulated don't know they're being manipulated. you could do a survey of a decade's worth of classes and find that the bell curve for anti-elven sentiment is skewed... but nobody believes statistics today; i can't imagine that will be less true in 2060+.
btw, i'm using "elves are evil" as a completely hypothetical example. i have no idea what Pimple thinks of elves. |
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