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Dec 22 2006, 09:46 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
You guys can all blame Fortune for this one.
Various discussions recently (like the 2070 corp thread I started in the SR4 section of the forums) brought about the fact that there are still quite a few of us, who arnt really aware of various revelations and happenings directly related to 'cannon' material because it was in novels we'ev never read. (Or possibly even heard of) So what I'd love to see here is a list of recommended SR novels for reading. Either becaus they gave a good 'feel' for the world of shadowrun, or simply becuase they offer up information about the happenings behind such things as the big D's assassination (which turned out not to really be an assassination) Personally to date one of my favourites is 2XS. I've got two others, one which is somewhat decent, but I cant recall the name of it atm and.. once again I'm posting from work. (I also may have put the novel away in storage somewhere) It was a good one though too I felt, had dying team member, a healthy screw job, some runin with the mafia etc. Had a pretty good feel to it I felt. Unfortunately that rather tiny insignificant list is my whole experience with the various novels. You can still find most of them floating around used bookstores and online. Though it greatly helps to have an actual listing of the titles. Sooo, then as with the topic, anyone care to contribute a 'suggested reading list' of various novels that cover the various happenings in the world of Shadowrun? (There has for example been mentioned this dragon heart trillogy or some such?) |
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Dec 22 2006, 10:18 AM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Everybody always blames me ... :( I'll just repost what I wrote on this in the other thread.
Seriously, I think you should read any of them that you can get your hands on. |
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Dec 22 2006, 10:25 AM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
A list of the (English language) Shadowrun novels can be found here.
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Dec 22 2006, 10:35 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,468 Joined: 5-December 06 From: Somewhere in the Flooding, CalFree Member No.: 10,215 |
Thanks Fortune, I have been meaning to look up and get more of the SR novels. I have only read the newer ones (since WizKids got the license, except Drops of Corruption) and one of the older novels, Ragnarok, which is one of my favorites so far. I have been trying to find more of them in used bookstores aroud my area and I may soon delve more into internet purchases to get some of them.
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Dec 22 2006, 10:44 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Cool Fortune, that helps alot.
And while I agree with reading any one can get their hands on, there are still the odd 'exceptional' books. One that -really- get that SR feel going, or at least reveal some pretty important information that has a good deal of relevance to the SR storyline as a whole. Which is more why I was asking for abit of a list of what people thought such books were. |
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Dec 22 2006, 10:49 AM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Just gettin' the ball rollin'. ;)
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Dec 22 2006, 11:10 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
*ducks behind cover* I dont belive that its' a ball! I bet it's some sort of grenade! |
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Dec 22 2006, 12:27 PM
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jacked in ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 8,006 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
Nice. Looks like there havn't been a whole lot of them coming out, since I stopped buying them (~35, not entirely sure there right now), so I guess I should be able to complete that eventually. :) Bye Thanee |
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Dec 22 2006, 12:50 PM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Technobabel has some pretty important information. Substantial amounts of it may be lame important information, but it's still important information.
~J, foe of the Humanized Deus |
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Dec 22 2006, 01:47 PM
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
My two :nuyen: :Don't read Nyx Smith. |
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Dec 22 2006, 02:38 PM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
And naturally, I disagree, for the reasons listed above. :P
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Dec 22 2006, 02:43 PM
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
And sometimes you go through an intiatory like ordeal reading them. In this case, sacrifice, a point of logic. Yadda yadda yadda. :P
The whole "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is not necessarily true for books. It's like killing off a little bit of yourself for every wated page, every wasted hour, that you just wish you could get back. |
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Dec 22 2006, 02:47 PM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
It's a small price to pay for insight and inspiration.
Besides, there are a lot of people here that have read the books, and most of them are hardly the worse for wear because of it. :P |
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Dec 22 2006, 02:50 PM
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
debateable
But to add something meaningful, I liked most of the stuff nigel Findley did :LoneWolf, 2XS, and House of the Sun. Burning Bright was also good (not so much Burning Time though). Headhunters good, Shadowplay, didn't care for personally. Same for Shadowboxer. Liked Psychotrope, although it's been years since I read it. Recall liking Wolf and Raven. See Fortune these are the books I need to pick up. Fade to Black not so much. I'll still get it, I'll still disagree with you. As much as I hate to admit it, there really isn't a one of those books that I can think of that I haven't taken something away from that gave me some idea or helped. The one exception was Poison Agendas. Got absolutely nothing out of that one. This post has been edited by fistandantilus3.0: Dec 22 2006, 02:56 PM |
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Dec 22 2006, 03:05 PM
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
For some more specific:
Psychotrope covers the '61 Matrix crash in Seattle and an AI Dragon Heart Trilogy: Dunkie's Dead. Get his ruby slippers LoneWolf: Cutter's gang and Lone Star and the Tir House of the Sun: Hawai'i and some immortals stuff and Dirk Montogomery Shadowboxer: Bad book after the first half. interesting group of runneres but the plot gets a bit ridiculous (well, as ridiculous as it can get in a world with elves and trolls on cyber decks and bands like Darwin's Bastards). HeadHuneters: Jack Skater's team. Good stuff Burning Bright: Good Bug city stuff, Ares, and cool mage Wolf and Raven: Basically a Robin Hood type runner with a series of short stories by Michael Stackpole. I like him, and I like the take on the character, which is basically a shamanic adept that follows, suprise of suprises, Wolf! Hope that helps a bit more. I recommend Used Book Stores (includes that old book smell!) or amazon.com to hunt down Used Book Stores. |
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Dec 22 2006, 04:29 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
I really like Dead Air. It's been a while since I read it, thoiugh, but I know it is one of the few novels that I didn't hate when I was finished.
Oh, god. Oh GOD !! I can only hope this is based on a very small sample of books, none of which were written before 2000.
Preying for Keeps was pretty good too until they meet Lofwyr. |
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Dec 22 2006, 05:12 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
see, if i didn't like you, i could cripple you for life. all i'd have to do is recommend you read Shadowboxer. and you'd find it, and open it, and afterwards, you'd never be the same.
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Dec 22 2006, 05:54 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
Perhaps a blacklist of shadowrun novels you better never ever look at would be more usefull.
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Dec 22 2006, 07:59 PM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I've read them all, and I haven't found one that I would put on that list yet. |
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Dec 22 2006, 08:29 PM
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
1)Poison Agendas |
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Dec 22 2006, 11:41 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,072 |
I own, and read them all, and I feel that one could do without a Lisa Smedman novel.
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Dec 23 2006, 03:51 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 26-February 02 From: In a hot tub, with lots of bubbles and champagne waiting for you. Member No.: 1,972 |
agreed |
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Dec 23 2006, 06:43 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
I disagree. I didn't much care for the "left turn in the plot near the end" style of writing, but "Bloodsport" was probably one of the most vividly-described SR novels I've read, and given that it takes place in Aztlan, that means some very gory images in my head. I remember coming across some really gory descriptions and shutting my eyes to try to get away from them, only to realize I was forgetting that the images were all in my mind. Yeah, my mind formed the images, but she put all the information there to make those images almost movie-like without slowing the novel down with long descriptions. I don't think any other SR author has had that power on me since then. I gotta go against any book written by Mel Odom. I didn't care for "Preying for Keeps" at all, and I got halfway through "Run Hard, Die Fast" before selling the damn thing to a used book store for $1. He just cannot make a novel interested, IMNSHO. Oh yeah, and if you find ANY Nigel Findley novels, BUY THEM. "2XS" was awesome; I'm still trying to find House of the Sun so I can find out what the hell happened to Dirk Montgomery! |
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Dec 23 2006, 07:38 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
blacklisted:
1) Shadowboxer. wow. just... wow. 2) Striper Assassin. i've never actually read this one, to be honest, but a) the premise is just... too teen fantasy, and b) i wasn't a fan of the short story in Into the Shadows. speaking of which, i definitely recommend Into the Shadows. i like it even better than the two Dirk books. |
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Dec 23 2006, 07:53 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Good lord. This is why I don't run games in regions I've never been. Most descriptions of Aztlan piss me off so much because of that. But too gory? I find that hard to believe.
And you can find out why Odom's version of Argent is a ginormous tool. |
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