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 Dec 27 2006, 01:38 PM
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Knight Templar  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 212 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Ipswich, UK Just South of the Stinkfens Member No.: 6,424  |
Does anyone know how much time has passed between the 4th world (Earthdawn) and the 6th world (Shadowrun)?
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Dec 27 2006, 01:40 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Several thousand years, possibly ten thousand, if I recall.
I don't think there's an official date anywhere, but I could be wrong. |
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Dec 27 2006, 02:14 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 9-June 02 Member No.: 2,860 |
IIRC, isn't each world 5000 years long?
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Dec 27 2006, 03:21 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Yep.
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Dec 27 2006, 03:28 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
From the internets:
"In the mythology of the Aztecs, the first age of mankind ended with the animals devouring humans. The second age was finished by wind, the third by fire, and the fourth by water. The present fifth epoch is called Nahui-Olin (Sun of Earthquake), which began in 3113 BC and will end on December 24, 2011. It will be the last destruction of human existence on Earth. The date coincides closely with that determined by the brothers McKenna in The Invisible Landscape as “the end of history” indicated by their computer analysis of the ancient Chinese oracle-calendar, the I Ching." "Archaeologists claim that the Maya began counting time as of year 3114 B.C. This is called the zero year and is likened to January 1, 1 AD. All dates in the Long Count begin there, so the date of the beginning of this time cycle is written 0-0-0-0-0. 13 cycles of 394 years will have passed before the next cycle begins, which is in year 2012 A.D. (13-0-0-0-0)." "The Mayas overcame this problem by using a third dating system which enabled them to identify a day uniquely within a period of 1,872,000 days - approximately 5,125.36 solar years." So about 5,125.36 years is a World, and the Fifth world began about 3114 B.C. Presumably the Fourth ended about then. ;) Source: http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_3.htm#top (The most non-esoteric of the lot I found) |
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Dec 27 2006, 03:40 PM
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Knight Templar Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 212 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Ipswich, UK Just South of the Stinkfens Member No.: 6,424 |
Many thanks :) I couldn't remember if there was any canon or not.
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Dec 27 2006, 06:38 PM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
So has anyone ever tried to justify the lack of dwarf, orc and troll skeletons in the fossil record? If we're in the sixth world and each has been approximately 5,000 years long, what was going on before 28,000BC? Where did all the para-mammoths go? Not seeking to attack the setting. I know it's fantasy. But sometimes justifying this sort of stuff can really enrich the setting and I wondered if there's anything ever written on this. |
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Dec 27 2006, 06:44 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Sure. Ork skeletons - oops, we thought they were Neanderthals. :-)
Dwarf skeletons - there have been plenty of dwarfs, pygmies, and short homo whatever to justify these. Trolls. Ummm, this one's tricky. Maybe they've got some special stuff goin' on in their bones (like maybe lots more proteins or something) to help make them strong enough to support their frames, but after significant decomposition takes place and the bones become extremely brittle and crumbly. So it is very unlikely that troll bones would survive. |
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Dec 27 2006, 06:53 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Not a bad theory, especially as troll bones apparently survive on Mars just fine. Reduced bacterial count means no protein decomposition and the troll bones retain their structural integrity. -Frank |
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Dec 27 2006, 10:17 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
According to Ehran the Scribe:
Incidentally, the remains of some paracritters and prehistoric human artifacts have reappeared or changed as the mana level has risen-such as that tomb-complex in Tír na nÓg where the human faces changed to distinctly elven appearance. This may or may not be connected to the sudden reappearance of supposedly extinct animals without a precursor species. |
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Dec 27 2006, 11:11 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Have I told you lately that I love you? :love: :grinbig:
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Dec 27 2006, 11:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 24-August 02 From: Magna, Ute Nation Member No.: 3,166 |
AH, where'd you get that quote?
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Dec 27 2006, 11:21 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
It sounds like Ehran's speech to the Young Elven Technologists (YET). Try the original Harlequin adventure ... maybe?
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Dec 27 2006, 11:25 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
It's been reprinted a couple times, and a longer, revised version was released by FASA at one point.
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Dec 27 2006, 11:28 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Dammit! I knew that it was a seperate release, but I second guessed myself when I didn't find it on your site. I blame you ... and America! :P
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Dec 27 2006, 11:45 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
That's fine. Because as everyone knows, Australia is entirely peopled by criminals. Who do criminal things with sheep.
Though I must admit the best breakfast I ever had was equal parts ostrich and kangaroo. |
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Dec 28 2006, 12:40 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
That's New Zealand! The rest is pretty much true though. :D |
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Dec 28 2006, 12:47 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,951 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
If they all do things with sheep, why do they outlaw those things?
~J |
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Dec 28 2006, 12:50 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
I blame it on the English. Whatever group of people the English choose to look down on-the Welsh, the Scots, the Australians-the sheep thing always comes up. I think English people have this deep-seeded psychological need to know that somewhere, somehow...
Back on topic (hah), Frank you know you shouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet. |
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Dec 28 2006, 12:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 750 Joined: 9-August 06 Member No.: 9,059 |
The great dragon's took a page God's efforts to place dinosaur bones here to confuse us and used ritual magic to destroy all evidence of the 4th world right before they went to sleep. |
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Dec 28 2006, 12:51 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Misdirection. ;) |
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Dec 28 2006, 01:04 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,951 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Well, FWIW Hunt's 1974 study suggested rates of "significant sexual experiences with animals" as being 4.9% for males and 1.9% for females, with a rate of about double that for both genders in 1948. I'm not sure what portion of the world's population the Welsh, Scots, and Australians make up… ;) (Kinsey pegged the rates as ~40%-60% for rural teenagers, but many of his studies are controversial and I don't know enough about them to evaluate) ~J |
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Dec 28 2006, 03:26 AM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Heh, so an obession with sheep shaggers, and tea? Sounds like an old world empire. Here is a wikipedia link, just for shits.
Linkage As i joked before, I have a little clock on my work desktop counting down to 12/24/2011. Im such a nerd. |
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Dec 28 2006, 07:03 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
How true. That could have been any 2.85 meter tall horned hominid. My mistake. -Frank |
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Dec 28 2006, 07:33 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
My money is on a very large mutant space cow. |
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