 High-tech armor in the news, Full battle armor |
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 Jan 15 2007, 11:55 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Iraq Member No.: 1,789  |
I could see CorpSec using that suit for the intimidation factor. Looks pretty sweet.
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Jan 16 2007, 12:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 5-May 02 From: Sydney Sprawl Member No.: 2,687 |
I think here in Australia is /is/ illegal to wear body armour. I seem to remember a bill board with all the restricted things on them in silhouette with guns and clubs and thing. I'm fairly sure it had a bulletproof vest type thing on it. -Strobe |
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Jan 16 2007, 12:37 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,629 Joined: 14-December 06 Member No.: 10,361 |
Yeah I saw that too, I laughed that there was a "no crossbows" section. No shit.
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Jan 16 2007, 12:41 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,526 Joined: 9-April 06 From: McGuire AFB, NJ Member No.: 8,445 |
Was there a boomerang or a slingshot on the billboard? :silly:
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Jan 16 2007, 12:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 5-May 02 From: Sydney Sprawl Member No.: 2,687 |
Crossbows have a huge restriction in this country. You can't have one that you can raise and fire with one hand/arm. You need a gun license to have one and you must shoot in a club or competition every so often (I think it might be once every 12 months). Also I don't think there were any boomerangs on the sign. Almost every tourist ends up with one and they go through airports fine so they are probably ok. :) -Strobe |
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Jan 16 2007, 01:24 AM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
As an aside, a friend and I were discussing medieval weapons here in the US. I'm not aware of any laws restricting carrying them around in public. I'm thinking of eventually mounting a ballista on my roof too. I think that'd be fun. I wonder if that high-tech armor would resist an eight foot long bolt.
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Jan 16 2007, 01:39 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 5-May 02 From: Sydney Sprawl Member No.: 2,687 |
Our government doesn't like that either. Medieval weapons (and replicas) need you to be a member of a club and have a license for at least in some states. -Strobe |
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Jan 16 2007, 01:47 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,629 Joined: 14-December 06 Member No.: 10,361 |
At a local park there is some guys here in sydney who dress up in knights armor and battle eachother with swords and shields.
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Jan 16 2007, 03:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Iraq Member No.: 1,789 |
I live in Arizona. Everybody could be Wyatt Earp down here and as long as it isn't concealed then it's legal. You can walk around with a broadsword on your back and can have a Glock strapped on your leg within the law. However, depending on the people around you (damn Californians are infiltrating our state acting stupid), you might have the cops called on you and get hassled. We also got some medieval recreators down here too. I use to be one. It's pretty fun.
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Jan 16 2007, 04:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
Technically you can openly carry weapons in Virginia and Alabama, but you really get weird looks at best and people freaking out at worst. So, it really isn't in you best interest to do that except on your own property.
Back to the topic, but along the same lines, there is no law against body armor either. However, just like openly carried weapons, actually wearing the stuff would bring the wrong kind of attention. |
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Jan 16 2007, 06:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Yeah, and, I dont have any clue how 'realistic' things are in Americas army. But it did make me wonder when I played AA. Once, out of pure despiration (my gun jammed on me mid fire fight. And it takes a while to clear a jam in AA) I just switched to GL and blasted a guy pretty much point blank. Course the grenade didnt explode. But it DID kill him. Assumably due to the force of impact to the chest. Ahh. that game was fun.. for a while. Then the sameness just got terribly dull and boring. |
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Jan 16 2007, 07:30 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
welcome to the army :silly: |
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Jan 16 2007, 07:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Oh I dont know. Sure alot of it would be quite boring. I mean I -did- spend over 3 years working nights as a security guard for several companies. So I definately know boring allright. 12hr shifts, nothing going on. Same place, every day... and your not allowed to read, listen to the radio, chatting with others is discouraged etc. God am I ever glad to be away from all that. But the thing is with the army you can at least see other places. I think if I ever joined up though I'd stick with the reserves. That way I could actually volunteer to go some places. And short of an actual all out war. I wouldnt wind up stuck in the same place endlessly for years on end with no real option to go anywhere else... I think? :| |
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Jan 18 2007, 09:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
If you decide to join the reserves, join 30th Field RCA here in Ottawa. That way I'll have someone to talk to about Shadowrun. Unless you want to go wear a skirt with the Camerons. ;)
Not to mention unlike the other units the Artillery practices with live ammunition all the time on the guns, using only blanks for salutes. Although the uninformed public always seems to think that we are actually going to fire into Quebec... |
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Jan 19 2007, 02:39 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 |
Perhaps because many would not mind were you to do so?:)
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Jan 19 2007, 08:02 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
To answer Penta's Question first: Damn sepreatists! They SHOULD be fired uppon! :S Well ok I dont -really- think like that... all the time. Though I do hate about 40% of french speaking Quebecers I run into because so many of them pull this elitist bullshit. I mean they have LANGUAGE POLICE for crying out loud. Thats so... facist? I'm not sure what the proper word would be for that kinda crap. Heh as for joining the Reserves. Ehh.. I dunno I looked at it. Camerons has at least some of the fields I'd want to get into. I'm not much of an Artillery type myself. I suck at math for starters so unless I had some one telling me what angle to put the gun at etc I'd litterally be eyeballing it and making edumacated guesses as to the proper angle to fire it at. Though either way. If I did go for the reserves I'd seriously have to get my fattening ass back into shape again. And... I'm really too lazy to do it by myself. I dont like going to the gym and what not alone. I get too bored too damn fast. And none of my friends are the sort to go with me. Sides I dont -really- know what I'm doing beyond a few basic warmups etc and the odd bits I learned when my folks used to make me take Tae-Kwon-Do lessons. ANd personally I'd have prefered something much 'cooler' such as Akido or Jujitsu or some such. Oh well. Money is abit of an issue too. But it's mostly the boredom. That and it would take me at least a good solid year of excersise to get back into shape I think. ANd endurance runs are allways goign to be abit of an issue. I'm the sprinter type. Even when I was at my peak I couldnt run as long as most people could. But for that period of time I could run considerably faster than they could. So I'm not really sure how that would work out. Otherwise I think I"d long ago have signed up. Course then there's the whole army owning a piece of your ass thing too. I'm not so hot on that little part. Though I really think it would be an overall 'positive' experience. And people like drill seargents yelling at me and giving me shit wouldnt bother me too much. Like my sister who joined the Navy said to one of her drill Seargents back in the days when she was still a cadet. "Oh.. my mother's MUCH worse than you." |
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Jan 19 2007, 09:35 AM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Sure. You just have to survive until election day. |
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Jan 19 2007, 09:56 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Eh election day has nothing to do with it. You volunteer to go various places for a tour. Each tour lasts X ammount of time. You may get ALOT of pressure to sign up for another tour sure. But in the end they cant at least legally force you to stay there without actually delcaring a war when your a reservist. And if they try that there's usally pretty easy ways of leaking the info to the press. And you'd definatley not be the only one wanting to go home when your tour is done. You upset enough troops to a big enough degree and they WILL turn on you. It's happened before, it'll happen again. That of course doenst help you if your the exception to the rule. Though Its definately true that some people signing up for the miltiary dont really know what the hell their getting into. There was yet another recent article in the newspaper about our troops in Afghanistan. And how alot of recent recruits wanted to go over to Afghanistan to help but they 'didnt want a fighting position'. Well umm. Guys? Army. What does the army do? Fight. Sure you can be rear echalon but if yoru an infantry trooper and go over there you ARE going to have to eventually go somewhere where people will probably shoot at you. If you cant stand that idea... you should have signed up in the first place for that kind of job. And if you didnt know that could happen. Thats really your own fault. They dont exactly hide the fact that as a soldier its your job some times to shoot at. And in shooting at others that you will be shot at in turn. If you dont catch on somewhere in basic training where their teaching you how to survive attacks and how to kill other people... then. Man.. I just dont know how you surive going out your door in the morning much less the act of turning on the TV every day. |
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Jan 19 2007, 10:13 AM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
The problem is that some people don't end up where they wanted to go.
See the point? ;) |
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Jan 19 2007, 10:16 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
they can for at least three months. it's called "stop-loss". doesn't require a declaration of war. |
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Jan 19 2007, 10:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Yeah but if you sign up as a reservist you damn well should expect the -possiblity- of that happening. I at least completely realize that if I wind up joining the military I'm effectively signing my life away for a while. Or at least a good part of it. In the end even if I did wind up in some boring place for a few years. Been there. Done that kinda thing. Bordom alone wont kill me. The degree I go to to relieve that bordom on the other hand..... :| |
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Jan 19 2007, 07:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
On the guns you are told by the Command post exactly what angle, bearing, and elevation to use. You only use math as a Tech with Recce or the CP.
Starting soon the military will now take people even if they are out of shape, on the condition that when you join you GET into shape. Hell, I've been in for about 6 years now. I suck at long distance marching, there are some things I just cannot carry for a long time, and I can't run. Hell, I failed the aptitude test by about 2 points or so, and they still let me in. Back on topic... The armour looks cool, I sure would like to see what will happen. Although we probably won't see it in use (if picked up) for another 10+ years probably, and us poor reservists won't get to use it. :P |
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Jan 20 2007, 04:33 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
My god their really getting that desperate for people these days? Damn. As for the armor. I dunno. Dont the reservists now also have the new camos? Or is that -still- dragging out? I mean yeah the reserves get the hand-me-downs first. But it usually works its way down the chain. Course a total lack of replacements wouldnt supprise me either when it comes to the Canadian military. Good ol' goverment has been letting our military slide further and further into the crapper gear wise for years. Meanwhile we have PMs buying 3 new jets for their private fleet they dont need and such. As to the estimate of 10+ years, I'd really probably shoot at 20-30+ for it to be fairly common. Keep in mind most militaries do it on the cheap. Why spend $40k on a single soldier just so he can have a few extra nifty toys when you can spend $40k on two soldiers who are only slightly less well equipped? |
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Jan 20 2007, 06:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
We finally got the CADPAD uniforms 3 years ago. And recently replaced the IECS winter gear with CADPAD gear as well, except for the parka for some reason. Apparently the wool toque is going to be replaced by a fleece one.
We even got a set of ballistic eyewear that we are supposed to use when shooting our rifles now, stupid reason as far as I'm concerned, but these things are GREAT! I wear them all the time when I go outside, and I'm no longer getting poked in the eye when I walk in the woods...although my groin still remains unprotected... We've gotten a lot of new stuff lately in gear, and very good as well. |
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Jan 20 2007, 06:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Hmm glad to see that the long overdue increases to the military budget are going to good use then. Now if only they'd replace those damn Sea Kings before another one falls out of the air. Or have they finally gotten aroudn to doing that too? God knows thats been delayed far, far too long.
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