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 Longest-running campaigns..., in terms of karma? |
 Jan 22 2007, 09:48 AM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019  |
What have been your longest-running campaigns in terms of karma dished out? 100 karma? 200? 300?
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Jan 22 2007, 10:52 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
I usually did scenarios rather than campaigns and those campaigns which I ran tended to be short and based around a series of scenarios. So, in terms of campaigns, I'd say no more than 25 karma or so tops.
However, some characters were used literally for years in these various settings and racked up quite a lot of karma. One I recall got 15 karma dice which equals roughly 150 karma. |
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Jan 22 2007, 12:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 |
Right around 350 karma (for the highest scoring character) - took two years to get there. |
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Jan 22 2007, 01:19 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Three and a half year long campaign, that got my elven mage close to 300 karma. Didn't play him the whole time, every player had a pool of three characters that he could pick and play. The characters of the various (iirc we were six people) knew each other, so it was a complex web. Only one player decided to play only one character, that ended up with close to 550 karma. |
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Jan 22 2007, 02:13 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,222 Joined: 11-October 02 From: Netherlands and Belgium Member No.: 3,437 |
Little over 200 Karma, I think maybe even broke 250 that time, but then we lost it all as we moved to SR4. :( However, I like my new character better, and he's soooo much weaker.
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Jan 22 2007, 02:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 24-August 02 From: Magna, Ute Nation Member No.: 3,166 |
I'm currently running a 6 year game. My players have about 620 karma.
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Jan 22 2007, 02:53 PM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
62 Karma dice... Wow.
They could probably throw down with an IE and win. |
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Jan 22 2007, 03:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 |
Three and a half years and counting, about 80 karma
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Jan 22 2007, 03:35 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
That's a lot of assumptions right there. Specifically: They're all human, and none of them have Bad Karma. They've never burned any of their karma pool. The IE someone has accumulated less karma pool than some Shadowrunners who haven't even lived outside the Sixth World. ~J |
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Jan 22 2007, 03:38 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
8 years on and off, 265 karma. Once the karma pool gets over ten, the normally impossible can become routine.
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Jan 22 2007, 04:03 PM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
Granted. It's 31 if they're not human. That's still a whole hell of a lot.
Again, granted.
And here is where I get to turn your two arguments back atcha. 1: Immortal Elves are, by their very nature, Immortal Elves, not Immortal Humans. Thus, their karma pool dice represent 1/20th of their total Karma, not 1/10th. Therefor, if we give the Immortal Elf in question the outrageous sum of 1,240 Karma, they still only have exactly as much Karma Pool as the human in question. 2: Immortal Elves have accumulated their Karma over a much longer peroid, at a much slower pace, since the kind of antis that generate Karma in a hurry would get noticed in the 5th world. However, they are also likely to have had to burn quite a few points to survive said 5th world, if nothing else they needed to spend Karma Pool to get magic off when they really needed it to fire off. 3: The group in question is composed of multiple 62-karma-dice characters. If the Sammie is willing to blow all of his Pool in one shot. he could just buy himself 62 net hits. Soak that. And if the IE has enough to soak it, well... Just imagine the Force of spirit you can buy by using Karma dice to buy successes. Have the spirit attack at the same time. :) |
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Jan 22 2007, 06:22 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
I don't remember, exactly. It was something around 300 karma, I think.
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Jan 22 2007, 06:37 PM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
The longest consistant campaign I ever ran the longest running character had 450 karma.
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Jan 23 2007, 06:54 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,928 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
15 if not human AND Bad Karma.
1 Karma a month for 6000 years is 72000 karma. Even with Bad Karma, that is 1800 karma pool. Who knows how much they started the 5th world with.
Contradict yourself much??? First you say it's an easy life and they are not going to be able to earn karma. Then you say it's a dangerous world where they are going to have to continually burn karma to survive. Like someone else said, when the karma pool gets over 10, many things are easy. I think a thouand year old being has learned how to survive without continually burning karma.
Need one success before you can buy any. And in answer to the original question while adding a remark about burning karma and/or karma pool, I have several characters that have earned about 420 karma without burning a single karma pool point. |
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Jan 23 2007, 05:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 24-August 02 From: Magna, Ute Nation Member No.: 3,166 |
Sorry to start an argument.
3 players are human (2 have spent permanent karma pool) an elf (who has spent permanent pool as well), and a Troll (Who started later and has about 300 karma, no permantly spent). It's surprising they actually get beat up on pretty regularly. Don't get me wrong, they kick butt and take names, but when you have 20, or so, fully armed and armored sec guards blasting away at you, it still hurts. I play that an IE would still smoke 'em. That's because I run an Earthdawn game too. They also have a team karma pool ( just a way for the humans to give back to the metas.). I maxed the players at a personal karma pool of 40, the rest going into the team pool. |
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Jan 23 2007, 05:49 PM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
I didn't say it was easy - I was saying that Karma would be a lot harder to come by in the 5th world.
And as for IEs smoking them? Bleh. I've found there's two kinds of Shadowrun players. Those that play Earthdawn, and those that don't know a damned thing about ED. Those that play ED 'get' all these connections that those that ignore ED are like "Huh. That's nifty - now roll to soak down 10D. Naval scale damage." Welcome to the sixth world. Even the Greast Dragons are afraid of what the mortals can do here. IEs better watch their step. |
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Jan 23 2007, 05:54 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Er, no, they aren't really. At all. Except for maybe the whole "calling the Horrors through early" bit, but that isn't really a demonstration of metahuman power. ~J |
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Jan 23 2007, 06:10 PM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
Do you remember that a half-hearted Aztlan attack nearly killed Ghostwalker, Mr. "So many spirits flying my Wing that you might as well call me Wing Commander" Ghostwalker?
If a national military or megacorporate body gets it in their head that a Great Dragon needs to go bye-bye, the GD is going bye-bye. It'll be the kind of epic battle you hear for ages, but the GD is toast. Nukes and falling girders and other orbital options will be involved. Whole swarms of spirits and astral mages will attack. Entire flight wings will concnetrate on one target. Canaries will go in first, and men will die. And so will a dragon. If they ain't afraid of what'll happen if they completely piss off a Mega or a Nation to the point of throwing everything and the kitchen sink at them, they ought to be. |
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Jan 23 2007, 06:45 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
No, actually, I don't remember that. Source?
(I'm not stating anything about whether or not it affects my position, but I want to review this.) ~J |
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Jan 23 2007, 07:00 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 |
One game it was about 2,00 karma but we got like 80 karma a game....
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Jan 23 2007, 09:13 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Nope. Can you be more specific? |
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Jan 23 2007, 09:34 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
When he attacked their sector in Denver, iirc.
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Jan 23 2007, 09:52 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
That nearly killed him?
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Jan 23 2007, 09:59 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i've used the same character on Shadowland for six years, now. in that time, he's accrued just over 200 karma. the largest reward for a single run was 37 karma.
i tend to view 5,000 earned karma as being at the low end for beings that have been around since the fourth (or, in some cases, the second--right?) world. even if they've burned an astonishing amount of karma pool to survive, pools of 100+ aren't, to me, beyond the realm of reason for immortal-types.
depends. i've never liked the whole "every famous person ever was an IE" thing, but it's canon that many famous personalities were IEs in disguise. how much karma do you get for scamming your way onto the throne of the British empire at its height? besides which, where do you think all our legends about dragons and magical beasties come from, if not from 5th-world IE/GD incidents? and that doesn't even count the fantastic amounts of karma they must have accumulated during their shenanigans during the fourth (and second?) world. that's several thousand years, right there, when they could run around doing big, dangerous, public things that would net them lots of karma. |
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Jan 23 2007, 10:22 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Not that I recall. And you can hardly call the Azzies' efforts in that incident 'half hearted'. |
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