The Common Man, I'm sick of discussing IE's and GD's. |
The Common Man, I'm sick of discussing IE's and GD's. |
Jan 29 2007, 08:33 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,629 Joined: 14-December 06 Member No.: 10,361 |
So we're shadowrunners, we live pretty crazy exciting lives. Gun battle one night, ritual sorcery the next, run into a colony of ghouls in the sewers, Crash into a cyberzombie in the halls of the "abandoned" research facility, assassin adepts come in your windows, towering corporations manipulating you, top-secret matrix hosts trying to fry our brains, not to mention that corp security guard just conjured a fire elemental and the all-troll shadowrunner team you're up against seems to be completely under the cover of an invisibility spell.
Extreme. We're shadowrunners, we come across crazy shit on a day-to-night-to-day-to-night basis. But what about mundane stuff, what about the common man? And by common man I don't even mean that average, barely cybered, mundane corpsec with the wife and kids that you just blew across the hall. I don't mean the foolish teenage ganger who got to big for his boots who you left in the dumpster behind Crusher 495. I mean the average civilians, pedestrians, wageslaves, squatters, ford-americar drivers, restauranteurs, cab-drivers, waiters, bartenders (though not necessarily the ork with the combat shotgun under the bar who has a rough idea of most secret megacorp dealings), and etcetera and so on and so forth. So in your games, do you come across the common man much? How do you portray them? What's the situation when it happens? What are the results? They don't even notice you're there, death toll is usually under 10? The guy who's americar you dinged in that chase comes up to you trying to trade insurance info? |
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Jan 29 2007, 08:37 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
I just give them 3s across the board and make them act in sterotypical ways. Should a PC decide to blow one away randomly it would almost certainly work. They mostly exist to witness events the PCs perform or appear at inconvienient times. ("Sir, I'm a lawyer, and I can help you in court against whoever was driving that black Americar!")
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Jan 29 2007, 08:47 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
They only have rating 2 move-by-wire and load their Ares Alpha with just regular weapon.
Other than that, I can't really tell. It depends on the person it is supposed to be. Most of them tend to be depressing people, though. So that the players can witness that being a wageslave in the 2070s is just being another cog in the machine (or another brick in the wall, to give it a 80s rock feeling). |
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Jan 29 2007, 05:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 28-July 05 Member No.: 7,526 |
Normal people naturally serve as foils for the shadowrunners. They make your players' differences stand out more. I use them to make players feel special, unique, godly, heroic, or like an outcast, witch, loser, or evil.
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Jan 29 2007, 06:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 15-January 07 Member No.: 10,652 |
The Wall was released November 30, 1979. So, it's a 70's rock reference. "Wrooong! Do it agian!":grinbig: |
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Jan 29 2007, 09:23 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...I love throwing "John Q Normal" stuff in all the time, like Seattle commute hour traffic. There are certain times if the day even in RL it is pretty bad. If the runners ar caught on the Intercity or any major street between 3:30 and 6:00 it will be slow going. There have been times the team even missed the exit because they were in the wrong lane & couldn't move over in time. Ploughing through other vehicles is a good way to bring everything to a halt and Lonestar to the scene.
Many of my settings include interaction "norms". In the last session, I ran the team was in a large chain run coffee shop when a terrorist bomb went off in the nearby intersection. The mages ended up attending to the norms in the shop who were injured by flying glass rather than continue to deal with the NPC they were talking to. In another scene, a small group of protesters were outside the home of another NPC who they had a beef with, one even hit her with a thrown rock. The runners stayed cool & didn't gun down the norms but instead hustled the woman into their van & drove off. I have yet to (and most likely never will) bring in a GD and only have one IE who is pretty much harmless (she just likes to tinker around with exotic technology). |
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Jan 29 2007, 09:30 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
There are a lot instances of the common man in my games. Most of the time, they are just background, unless the players choose to interact with them. But they are there, like the ever-present squatters in the barrens.
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Jan 29 2007, 09:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
I did something like this too, or I should say it happened to one of my teams. They were in a coffee house that acted as a front for a decker den in the basement. Most of the team stayed upstairs, while the decker went downstairs. In the interim, a group of armed men came in, some covering the customers upstairs and the rest going to the basement. A bit of a shootout down there and some customers getting roughed up in the shop during the ensuing panic. The team was ready to strike but they were after someone else. In the aftermath, after checking on our decker, the mage provided some healing to the worst injured while the Sammi, who had first aid, tended to some others. When Lone Star started arriving, the owners of the place got the team out before they got caught. This earned the team favor in the eyes of the regulars and made a contact of the owner. Never used any IE save for Harlequinn and then only in the campaign books centered on him. Dragons also only came into play in published adventures. |
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Jan 29 2007, 10:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,510 |
I don't do this nearly enough. I always remember things like that after the game, but anytime I have to run on the fly, Seattle becomes a ghost-town. :) I remember after my first chase-scene, I was thinking about it, saying to myself "that would have been so much more interesting if there was a little traffic on the road." Especially since it was a bike vs helicopter scene, so my player could have pulled off some really cool stunts if I had thought about it during the game but I was focussed on "who's going to win" and the combat situation that was happening at the same time.
I'm going to try to add more "normal problem" stuff later. Right now, though, most of the Johnsons are just normal people with abnormal problems who need someone who can help and don't know anyone else to call except this one girl they met at a party who mentioned she knew people who specialize in handling "immediate problems of an unusual, dangerous and discreet nature". Hell, most of them still use their real name when dealing with the runners. I figure they won't get the corporate "professional Johnsons" until they've built up a little Street Cred. (Also, I assume the fixer has to build up a little street cred too, or maybe they'll have to find themself another fixer later who can get them more "professional employment.") |
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Jan 30 2007, 12:08 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
I suppose that "normal" NPCs let you portray, in a Gary Larson style way, how the everday people of the Shadowrun world are pathetic and defficient in some way.
If tanned elves in platinum bikinis with rigid torpedo-like boobies are the zeitgeist of classic RPG fantasy, then flabby sedentary women with floppy pale boobies and datajacks are the zeitgeist of Shadowrun. |
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Jan 30 2007, 02:52 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
right, normal people are everywhere. regular contacts for the runners and populating the world they're in. the perople down the hall from their squat/condo. shop keepers and locals they know. filled worlds.
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Jan 30 2007, 11:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 |
Always there. Some times a hinderence, sometimes a help, sometimes down right deadly in the Barrens but always throwing the shadows into relief by their bright shiny normalness.
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Jan 31 2007, 06:13 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 28-May 06 From: Raleigh Member No.: 8,613 |
I think by 2070 it would another bit in the program. |
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Jan 31 2007, 06:21 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Fortunately 2070 doesn't come for seven years yet.
~J |
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Jan 31 2007, 08:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
My group and I roleplay a great deal of downtime as well, and in those moments the run into Joey Normal all the time. Even when they're not on downtime they deal with normal people all the time. Whether they're sitting and waiting for their streetdoc to be available, or if they're waiting for their Johnson in a public place, normal and average people are always there.
I know that some people like to play their Shadowrun games mission to mission, not really playing downtime, but I feel it'd become more a combat and strategies game when you do that. I still fondly remember The True Façade, brain-child of Brother Justice, an in-character bulletin board for Shadowrun's "normal people." It was fantastic, and gave the world a lot of flavour. |
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Jan 31 2007, 10:36 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
That's how I do it too. |
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Jan 31 2007, 03:50 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...I occasionally get a chance to do this as well. Most of the time however, it's "between runs" gear shopping/upgrading, mages binding spirits (though an interesting situation took place the last time this occurred), and the such.
I agree, there should be a life outside running. |
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Jan 31 2007, 08:25 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
Definitely
During the best campaign I've ever GMed, we spent nearly half the time (maybe even more) playing life outside the runs... We even spent whole game session playing out daily life (for Christmas time). All the PCs lived in the same "building", and I had described each of their 50 neighbors. They were far more than just plain decoration... Anyway, I'm getting nostalgic... |
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Jan 31 2007, 09:37 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...did one session which took place during the "Season" in the UK. The runners ended up attending the estate ball for the young woman they were hired to watch over. They got to see how the "other side" lived for an evening.
Oh, yes, there were a few clues relating to the overall mission dropped along the way just to see if anyone was paying attention. |
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Feb 1 2007, 09:30 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 278 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Rehovot, Israel Member No.: 265 |
Me too, though this depends on the game. In my previous group we were doing high-action running, with very little downtime, especially since the group was large and had many young and inexperienced players who wanted alot of thrill. I currently run a one-on-one game for my girlfriend, and she likes talking to interesting NPCs (mostly non-runners) as much as she likes the runs themselves (if not more). So I've ended up detailing many personalities in the squatter-zone of Orting (deep in the Pullayup barrens), where her character - a street shaman -lives and does her first "runs". |
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Feb 1 2007, 06:30 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 527 |
What has made my groups campaigns so memorable is the normal people. I like to mix it in with the regular runs to add depth. Two examples that come to mind are: once on a run my players were running security for a high class event. Through use of a cyberware scanner they noticed a young man there had a cyberleg. They cornered him and found out he had lost his leg in a car crash and he was the nephew of someone there. This really made them stop and go, OHHHHHHHH not only criminals have cyberware. My favorite moment though was for an magic initiation. I like some of my initiations to be played out as extremely sacrificing and difficult situations. I had a player whose character was catholic and as he was pulling into church a huge explosion went off. He ran in and started pulling out bodies and as he lined them up he realized if they didn't receive medical treatment soon they would die. There were 26 bodies. His initiation was to cast healing on as many as he could without dying. I took him all the way up to the max damage without death. He lost some and saved some, and remembers that as one of those great defining moments for his character.
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