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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Transformation Manipulation
Physical Sustained Major Change Extra Effect Voluntary/Or not. Transparency A percentage of all light-waves pass through the target of a Transparency spell. It adds to the target number needed to spot the target on a perception test by the number of successes up to the spell's force. The threshold is half the target's Body or OR. Note that a person is a target, a gun is a target, ect - meaning that Transparency does not affect the target's external gear. Anything not "integral" at the time of casting is not transparent (unless transparent to begin with). The spell also offers armor against light based attacks equal to Force. Is the target number of Shapechange Body or 6? What's the drain? +2M or something right? :scatter: |
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
Holy cow! It's a suit of armor walking down the streets of Seattle without anything in it! Deadly Spiritbolt! Deadly Spiritbolt! It isn't going down, dammit! Deadly Spiritball! Noooooooooooooooooo..........
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Naked mages are fun.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
here's a question: how would the subject of a transparency spell see? after all, if they're transparent, the light will pass through the eyes unaffected instead of being flipped and projected against the retina. a mage could still see astrally, of course, but a norm would be blind.
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
A percentage of the light passes through the retina. I thought of that right off. One would not have too much trouble as the eyes resolution is overly detailed as is.
If you still want more, just make the eyes get a higher portion of the percentage. It only adds TN to a perception test when spotting the character. |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
is there a reason to use this spell instead of shadow? i don't recall the exact effects of shadow, but it's very similar to this.
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Chrome to the Core ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 ![]() |
Because, IIRC, Shadow merely makes things "darker" around the target. This would effectively make them not exist to most light particles, thusly making them semi-transparent.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
right, but the game-mechanics effect is the same--a modifier to perception tests.
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Becuase Shadow is not too useful for creeping along a brightly lit wall and has no effect on laser attacks. Otherwise, no. Shadow actually has the advantage of area affect.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
eh, yeah. i mean, if you commonly sneak through brightly-lit areas with no clothes on, or get shot at a lot by lasers, then this is the spell you.
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Technically Invisibility only adds to perception tests to spot the character, adding a blanket +8.
Besides you're only thinking about using it on people. Cast it on a gun and suddenly they are harder to spot on x-ray machines. Cast it on a satellite dish and see what happens. |
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
Use the Quake I effect. Have everything go transparent but the eyes.
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Senior GM ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 ![]() |
I don't interpret the rules the way you describe. I believe the rules let you determine whether someone looking at the subject is 100% unable to see the subject, or 100% able to pierce the invisibility and see the subject. (SR3 p. 195) I've been wrong on several things, so I'd love to see how I'm doing this wrong.
Even if the subject is invisible to you, you can still attempt to shoot them at +8 if your GM agrees you've got a good sense of where they are. But I don't see any way to perceive if the subject is male vs. female, or elf vs. human, or wearing red vs. green; even at +8. Can you describe how invisibility adds +8 to perception tests? |
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
+8 to spot the character, not describe it. You can judge weight, position, ect through sound, smell, ect and other side effects, all at a +8 target number to a perception test.
[edit] We could even argue other things like the male female aspect by breathing sounds and shoe prints, swish of pants, ect. |
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Senior GM ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 ![]() |
Interesting interpretation. If an invisible character passed some sentries, I'd always thought to allow the sentries a hearing perception test, or possibly a smell perception test (if they had different diet or grooming habits from the subject), but neither perception test would be at any penalties for the invisibility. Your method is certainly simple and easy to remember.
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