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post Feb 10 2007, 06:25 AM
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Hey, help me come up with some good Latin phrases to speak when centering and using magic skills. No, not Hispanic gang phrases, but the dead language kind of Latin.

I never took Latin and only know a few phrases and what they mean. If you know some (and the pronunciation) and the translation, and a cool time to say them, by all means let me know.

Or if there is a good web site, link me or let me know.

Variations on common sayings would be nice, too. Like instead of caveat emptor (let the buyer beware), have it be let the Johnson beware. Carpe Ingram. In god we trust, all others cash. Etc..

Ok, maybe I should have googled first and seen the wikipedia list of phrases. Anyone care to translate/transpose some that could be used in game?
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post Feb 10 2007, 06:39 AM
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...anything from the Latin Requiem would be good. In particular, the Dies Ire, the Sanctus, the Kyrie, and the Lux Eterna. you should be able to find the texts in your local library's music stacks.
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post Feb 10 2007, 06:48 AM
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I have three years of high school latin under belt and a very nice latin dictionary....toss me a couple of things that would you would like to hear in latin (mostly words and short phrases) and I will give you them in latin.
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post Feb 10 2007, 06:50 AM
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i remember one type on the cartoon gargoyles, they had this old wizard as a recurring villian. Anyways when he cast a lightening spell he always said "fuminus vinite!"

or on conan the adventure cartoon, i remeber grey wolf saying "creu oram todas vite infernim" . that cartoon had alot of magical phrases.


I miss both cartoons :(
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:04 AM
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam - I have a catapult. Give me all your money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.

This probably wouldn't work :rotfl:.

I've had over 4 years of latin, forgot most of it and appearantly lost my dictionary somewhere. That said, it probably would be a good idea if you post a list of the spells and we try to come up with one or more phrases for each spell.
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:06 AM
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Request for translation:

"What is to give light must endure burning."
"May fortune favor the foolish."
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
"I banish you from doing harm. Harm to others and harm to yourself."
"I have become gray. I stand between the light and the dark."
"Angels and ministers of grace, defend us."
"Time waits for no man."
"Ow, that hurt."
"You can't just geek every wired deckhead that frags a datasteal."
"We will do now what must be done now."
"Night gathers and now my watch begins."
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post Feb 10 2007, 09:04 AM
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I've got a book somewhere on Latin insults.

Not having that handy, you could try:

Latin expressions

Latin insults

The first of those has wide variety of things while the second is pretty much on or a few word insults.
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post Feb 10 2007, 01:38 PM
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I got an excellent pdf of a Catholic exorcism (English and Latin, side by side). I'd be happy to send it to you if you'd like it, quality material, includes telling demons to be gone, so on and so forth. Some dragon related lines in there too.
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post Feb 10 2007, 02:21 PM
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Peratu... verata.. nictu*cough loudly*
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post Feb 10 2007, 03:21 PM
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A few good, traditional ones that quickly come to mind:

Fiat Lux -- "Let there be light" (Light spell)
Pax Vobiscum -- "Peace be with you" (Sleep or mind control for calming)
Tempus Fugit -- "Time Flies" (Slow spell)

A few appropriate variations on those:
Fiat Ignis -- "Let there be fire" (Blowtorch)
Fiat Vita -- "Let there be life" (Healing)
Bellum Vobiscum -- "War be with you" (mind control for anger)
Tempus Credit -- "Time Crawls" (Enhance reflexes)

and, my old favorite for painting on 40K banners:
Caveat Emptor -- "Buyer beware"

This post has been edited by the_dunner: Feb 10 2007, 11:33 PM
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post Feb 10 2007, 03:56 PM
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Ne cede malis - do not surrender to misfortune.
Oderint dum metuant - let them hate so long as they fear.
Fortiora omnia dicta si dicta Latina - everything sounds stronger when said in Latin
Orda ab chao - order from chaos
Oscularis tuam matrem ore isto? - You kiss your mother with that mouth?

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post Feb 10 2007, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (the_dunner)
Tempus Fugit -- "Time Flies" (Slow spell)
[ . . . ]
Tempus Fugit -- "Time Crawls" (Enhance reflexes)

That's ironic.
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post Feb 10 2007, 06:32 PM
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Very good, we have some nice ones. After sleeping on it, I thought how nice it would be to translate some of the Shadowrun sayings like: Watch your back. Shoot straight. Conserve ammo. And never, ever, cut a deal with a dragon. (There was a translation on wikipedia about not tickling a sleeping dragon.:)) Or some classic movie quotes from this topic.

Some in general for translation:
Cry havok and let loose the dogs of war
Spirit of this domain, I summon thee
Now you see me, now you don't
Up, up, and away
This is going to leave a scar
QUOTE (cetiah)
"What is to give light must endure burning."
"May fortune favor the foolish."
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
"I banish you from doing harm. Harm to others and harm to yourself."
"Angels and ministers of grace, defend us."

nezumi Could you post a few of them about the demons and dragons?

Thanks the_dunner, Kagetenshi
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post Feb 10 2007, 06:53 PM
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And of course there's the always popular 'Planto meus dies punk' for combat spells. ;)
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post Feb 10 2007, 07:53 PM
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There's always cave canem—"beware of the dog".

As for pronunciation, remember: "c"s are hard, "v"s are "w"s. I don't remember anything else, but it's been several years since I've taken Latin (and a few before that since I took it seriously, more's the pity).

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post Feb 10 2007, 08:10 PM
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Barnes and Noble also has a simple book called "Latin Can Be Fun" ISBN 1-56619-991-3

Is everything going according to plan? Satin' omnia ex sententia?

You are most to blame. Tua summa culpa est

He looks very serious. Magna est in vultu severitas

Edit: A quick google search gave me this as a translator. I haven't tried it.
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:11 PM
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Not really useful for your purposes, but still nice is this, my favourite piece from a book called something like Latin for posers (frankly, it's also the only one I remember):

Meum est propositum in taberna mori - It is my intention to die in a bar. ;)
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (cetiah)
Request for translation:

"What is to give light must endure burning."
"May fortune favor the foolish."
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
"I banish you from doing harm. Harm to others and harm to yourself."
"I have become gray. I stand between the light and the dark."
"Angels and ministers of grace, defend us."
"Time waits for no man."
"Ow, that hurt."
"You can't just geek every wired deckhead that frags a datasteal."
"We will do now what must be done now."
"Night gathers and now my watch begins."

"May fortune favor the foolish." - Fortuna Fatuus Favere
"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Fortuna Pararus Animus Favere

Off the top of my head and I can do those...I will work on the others when I get back from running in a bit.
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:17 PM
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Conceal us--Occulto nos

Confuse them--Turbo lemma

Up, up, and away--Sursum , sursum , quod absentis

This is going to leave a scar--Is est iens dimitto vix

Transliterated using the above link.
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post Feb 10 2007, 10:41 PM
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EGO vadum punctum alter rectum intestinum iri in vos tunc EGO vadum concubitus per is.

I got it from a machine translator, so I don't know how accurate or correct the phrase is, but it sounds intimidating.

http://www.translation-guide.com/free_onli...nglish&to=Latin
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post Feb 10 2007, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (Demerzel)
QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 10 2007, 07:21 AM)
Tempus Fugit -- "Time Flies" (Slow spell)
[ . . . ]
Tempus Fugit -- "Time Crawls" (Enhance reflexes)

That's ironic.

Doh! fixed typo -- should have been credit.
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post Feb 10 2007, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
As for pronunciation, remember: "c"s are hard, "v"s are "w"s. I don't remember anything else, but it's been several years since I've taken Latin (and a few before that since I took it seriously, more's the pity).

Assuming classical Latin and not church Latin:

"i" is pronounced like a long "e"
"e" is typically pronunced like a long "a"
"a" is often pronounced like a soft "o", but not always
"u" is typically

Latin generally does not have dipthongs. So, if you see multiple vowels together, you pronounce all of them.

Mind you, I can't write phonetically very well, but a couple of examples of pronunciation:

Fiat Lux = Fee' ought Looks
Cave Canem = Ka' way Ka' nam
Tempus Fugit = tem Puss' Few' geet

Finally, Latin rarely uses pronouns. Especially as the subject of a sentence. Instead, it depends on the verb conjugation. (I'm suddenly having visions of "Life of Brian" as I type this.) As an example conjugating "To Be"

Sum - I am
Es - You are (sing)
Est - He/She/It is
Summus - We are
Estes - You are (Plur)
Sunt - They are

Verb endings depend upon person and plurality. It depends upon the verb's declension (there are 4 common conjugations), but here's the most common endings:

Person Singluar Plural
1st -o -mus
2nd -s -tis
3rd -t -nt

Church Latin is a bit of an abomination, resulting in two thousand years of non-Romans mangling the language for religious purposes. It generally uses a soft "c," adds the letter "j," and pronounces things similarly to how you'd expect them to be pronounced in English. (So, if you're playing a Christian theurge, just ignore any of the above advice.)

If any of the above is flagrantly wrong, I'm blaming the facts that I last had a Latin class 19 years ago, I'm going from memory, and I only really use Latin for occasional gaming purposes. 8)
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post Feb 11 2007, 12:30 AM
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I know one phrase Carpe Diem Carpe Noctum Carpe Ingram hehe.
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post Feb 11 2007, 12:50 AM
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Grr.. Very frustrating. I had the pdf, but it doesn't seem to be on my hard drive now. I managed to find it through google originally, so I'm sure it's not impossible to find a second time, but it didn't jump out when I searched. A lot of the Roman Catholic prayers can be found in Latin and English, side by side, it's just not always easy.

I did copy one line out for my signature on another site, Praecipio tibi, quicumque es, spiritus immunde. Using that, I did find:

http://www.liturgysociety.org/JOURNAL/Volu...anslyke10.1.pdf

Which has some good side-by-side translations you can lift bits out of (especially towards the end).

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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post Feb 11 2007, 01:03 AM
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I have a pocket dictionary of English-Latin/Latin-English words, but I may have mis-translated one personal favorite:

Don't just think, Scheme! = Non Mondo Cogitare, Consillium!

Did I get this right?
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