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Feb 25 2007, 10:13 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 22-November 06 Member No.: 9,934 |
the description says that the spurs protrude "wrist or knuckles."
unfortunately our GM has convinced the rest of the group it should be taken literally so that cyberspurs cannot be located anywhere else... any help in producing an argument to the contrary would be most appreciated |
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Feb 25 2007, 10:22 PM
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Well common sense would suggest that if you can fit a spur to come out of the wrist or knuckly, you can fit it to come out the other way through an elbow (possibly more useful than you might think if you've never done a martial art that makes use of elbows) or some other places. The counter would be that if it were an unusual place then cost would go up as it's less standard, and barring the possible damage you could do with a razor sharp elbow, knuckles and wrists seem the most natural place to mount them in terms of usefulness.
Where did you want the spur and why? |
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Feb 25 2007, 10:59 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Ah, the joys...look under the Combat Active Skills section for the description of the Exotic Melee Weapons Skill.
Realistically, the major limitation for a spur is placing it parallel to a long bone and not stabbing yourself whenever you deploy the damned thing. Standard placement to come along the hand allows you to use normal Blade techniques; the more usual unusual placements are coming out the back of the arm by the elbow (elbow spur) or along the shin to come out near the knee (knee spur) and each requires their own specific Exotic Melee Weapon Skill. |
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Feb 25 2007, 11:02 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 4-September 06 Member No.: 9,304 |
Have it come out of the bottom of your foot.
Skill needed is break dancing :spin: |
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Feb 25 2007, 11:12 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 22-November 06 Member No.: 9,934 |
while these are nice suggestions they don't give me a basis with which to form an argument. knasser, right now I do not have a specific location in mind for a spur other than the elbow (retracting through the forearm) to attack individuals coming up from behind. however the prosect of a spur being somewhere other than listed locations is the desire. |
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Feb 25 2007, 11:28 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 4-September 06 Member No.: 9,304 |
Djinni,
take a look at page 112, exotic melee weapons, as Ancient History suggested. the description on exotic melee weapons finished with "cyber-implants weapons in unusual locations (ie. elbow spurs, foot blades)." |
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Feb 25 2007, 11:47 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 22-November 06 Member No.: 9,934 |
my bad I took it as a suggestion for the spurs in other locations. I will definately use that. any other Ideas? |
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Feb 25 2007, 11:59 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
I have used the elbow placement as well as along the shin coming up at an angle in front of the knee. That particular Sammie was trained in Muy Tai. Made those knee kicks very deadly. The movement issue was avoided by only deploying the blade just before he actually delivered the kicks and retracted them immediately afterwards. We counted that as part of his training so it was done as a matter of reflex.
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Feb 26 2007, 12:24 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 170 Joined: 18-September 06 Member No.: 9,412 |
The tailor bills must have been hell though...
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Feb 26 2007, 12:39 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 4-September 06 Member No.: 9,304 |
Well, if the sammy get's along well with the mage, the spell fix should take care of that problem in a jiffy.
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Feb 26 2007, 07:47 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,468 Joined: 5-December 06 From: Somewhere in the Flooding, CalFree Member No.: 10,215 |
Foot blades is what I thought when you brought up cyber spurs in unusual locations....now I can make my X-23 cyber spur sammie :D
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Feb 26 2007, 09:20 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
So your a female clone of a runner named Logan who hand razors and some deltaware bone modifications.
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Feb 26 2007, 10:38 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,468 Joined: 5-December 06 From: Somewhere in the Flooding, CalFree Member No.: 10,215 |
Of course....cloned by the government to be an assassin, hence the unusual cyberware and the high grade of it. :D
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Feb 26 2007, 04:13 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
Of course, you'll die at 30. .... .... That was a really obscure stretch from the quote. |
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Feb 26 2007, 05:08 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
The quote was obscure there was no stretch. X-23 was X-Men character. Rather then explain it myself look her up here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-23 |
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Feb 26 2007, 08:04 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
No, my comment was an obscure stretch. Yours I got just fine. ;) |
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Feb 26 2007, 09:18 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
Alrighty then slight miss under standing
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Feb 26 2007, 09:50 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
Didn't they have Foot Anchors in Man and Machine? I imagine a spur coming out the bottom of your foot is pretty much the same thing. |
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Feb 26 2007, 09:57 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
You could also build a boot with a retractable knife in side. Now thats a steel toed boot! |
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Feb 26 2007, 11:54 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,290 Joined: 23-January 07 From: Seattle, USA Member No.: 10,749 |
*Contemplates the idea of a head spur for killer head butts*
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Feb 27 2007, 12:05 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
Man and Machine had horns, that should be along the lines of what you are thinking about. |
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Feb 27 2007, 01:20 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 4-September 06 Member No.: 9,304 |
Ah, Logan's Run Everyone dies at 30. If you don't report in for termination on your birthday, Logan and his fellow (forget the term) enforcers come along and kill you. All sanctioned of course. Your dating yourself there Lorechaser grin but I though of the same thing when I saw the name |
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Feb 27 2007, 01:34 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
Not quite as much as if I'd seen it in theaters, but my friends did make a point to give me the DVD when I turned 30. |
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Feb 27 2007, 02:44 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,510 |
Spurs are okay, and where they can be placed is fairly easy to judge. I'm far more concerned about players coming up with creative locations for razors. :eek:
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Feb 27 2007, 05:49 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
The fluff in Cybertechnology, specifically Hatchetman's life story, indicated that putting spurs in other parts of your body does happen sometimes. If memory serves, he had a pair of spurs in one arm... one forwards as normal, one coming back out the elbow.
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