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post Nov 5 2003, 04:17 PM
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post Nov 5 2003, 06:07 PM
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post Nov 5 2003, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (Sphynx @ Nov 5 2003, 03:23 AM)
Personally, I usually take Police Record (this would be the flaw I normally chat about) because for -6 points, all you have to do is report to your payroll officer regularly, and even if you skip payroll, you're still overly paranoid about Cops (a good habit in Shadowrun).

This had me quite confused for several minutes. Then I figured out that you were talking about parole officers :)
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post Nov 5 2003, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (Sphynx @ Nov 5 2003, 02:23 AM)
Personally, I usually take Police Record (this would be the flaw I normally chat about) because for -6 points, all you have to do is report to your payroll officer regularly, and even if you skip payroll, you're still overly paranoid about Cops (a good habit in Shadowrun).

You might want to read that flaw over a bit more carefully, because that's not the only hindrance of it. You're stuck with a criminal SIN that has *all* of your personal information on it (and you're not gettting rid of it without paying 60 Karma first, and then only with the GM's blessing to allow you to buy the flaw off), meaning if you leave so much as a drop of sweat behind at a crime scene, they'll be able to track you down pretty easily.

Not only that, but you can never have any contacts beyond the street level. Every corporation will have a copy of your records, including your face, prints, and style, allowing them to easily identify you when you infiltrate their property *and* know your weaknesses. And finally, your GM has free reign to have Lone Star or other police/security individuals harrassing you whenever he feels like doing so.

And when they do find out that you're performing illegal activities, which again is going to be easy as cake for them to do, they'll know most if not all of your contacts, your primary residence (any new safehouses should be safe, as long as you secured them through Level 2 or higher contacts who'll try to protect you -- Level 1's usually don't), and they can check up on you any time they wish, so you can't just keep a fake lifestyle going to bypass those things.

In fact, I'd say it's one of the *worst* flaws that a Shadowrunner can possible have.
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post Nov 5 2003, 08:39 PM
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It's better than Vindictive. ;)

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post Nov 5 2003, 08:46 PM
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Only in your mind's eye. :) By the rules involved, the in-character consequences of the flaw, and the reprecussions of both of them, Police Record is *EASILY* three times (more like ten times) worse.
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post Nov 5 2003, 08:48 PM
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Fortunately, you live in a world where you can have your own (albeit bizarre) opinion. Lucky you. :P

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post Nov 5 2003, 08:54 PM
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Yes, lucky me. In my strange little world, having a bad attitude and a reputation for not being someone to fuck with (because doing so usually results in the offensive individual being punished for the perceived wrong -- sorta like Lucy Liu's character in Kill Bill), which admittedly can be a pain if you can't control it when around someone bigger and badder than yourself... is SO MUCH less a hassle than having all of your personal information on government and corporate records, a criminal SIN, constant harrassment, not being able to leave the area, nothing but street contacts, no association whatsoever with corporate types, and all the other pains that come with Police Record.

But as you pointed out, the former is obviously more of a hassle than the latter for a Shadowrunner in the "real" world. What a silly world I live in.
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post Nov 5 2003, 09:23 PM
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The greatest advantage of vindictive is that there is no requirement as to when you exact revenge, just that it will happen. The vindictive keep track of those who "will suffer greatly!" and implement the pain as is fitting.

A lying braggart griffin shaman is a potent flaw: will take credit for all accomplishments, none will believe the claims, and the first person to challenge his truthfulness gets in a fight to the death.

Vindictive is easy if the player and character are smart, low intelligence on either part makes it suicide.
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post Nov 5 2003, 09:25 PM
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Not to mention that an ex-con is going to get hassled on general principles. And anyone who happens to be with them at the time.

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