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> What slang do you use?, Removal of SR3 slang
How much SR3 slang do you still use?
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post Mar 15 2007, 09:12 PM
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Personally I have adopted the SR4 use of real swear words but have kept the old SR3 terms like Chummer and Omae. For characters who were established before the crash I'll still have them use some of the old slang (like Decker) because they're used to it. I've even had high-grade initiates drop the Name-Giver bomb.

Anyway, just interested.
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post Mar 15 2007, 09:24 PM
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Personally, I use a good combination of both. Frag and chummer stick out from my fun with the old genesis game, and that is also a good part of the reason I laps into saying Decker from time to time. I however also use the SR4 lingo as well as current modern lingo. For me things can be both wicked awesome and wiz and someone can be just another dude or just some omae. IMHO its sorta like even though I was born in the 80's things can still be groovy and my lack of involvement in the hair metal or much of the 80's scene still lets me use rad, awesome, righteous, wicked, sick, tubular, and far out. Slang is slang, and as long as others understand it then it works.
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post Mar 15 2007, 09:41 PM
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You can have my Hoi, Chummer when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.
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post Mar 15 2007, 10:42 PM
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You can have my Hoi, Chummer when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

*BLAM! BLAM!*

*pry.*

*runs off into the night.*
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post Mar 15 2007, 10:59 PM
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*walking by*

"Oooo, dead body."

*looks around, removes docwagon bracelet and takes wallet/watch/etc...*

*drags body off to organ legger*
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post Mar 16 2007, 01:10 AM
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Well in my games, a 'Hacker' might be someone who uses a combat axe and a Decker is who you hire to slice some IC.
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post Mar 16 2007, 01:44 AM
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*hits the matrix and steals lorechaser's SIN, credit cards, and the rest of his identity and financial holdings*
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post Mar 16 2007, 02:02 AM
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And that chummers, is why you never pass out in the barrens. You'll get fragged and robbed in ways you never realized were possible :P
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post Mar 16 2007, 02:24 AM
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when discussing on dumpshock, i usually don't use the old slang. about the only new "slang" i use is hacker, and that's just for the purpose of discussion. i much prefer the old slang, personally.
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post Mar 16 2007, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE (Fezig)
And that chummers, is why you never pass out in the barrens. You'll get fragged and robbed in ways you never realized were possible :P

At least I didn't mention about renting the body out first for the goth/necrophiliac group for a short time before taking it to the organ leggers... and then selling the body to the ghouls...

There, now your statement is appropriate since it covers all possible meanings. :-P
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post Mar 16 2007, 02:45 AM
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Personally, I always thought most of the old slang was a bit ridiculous. I mean, decker made sense, what with cyberdecks and all, but 'drek'? The only person I've ever actually heard use the word 'drek' was a middle-aged Jewish lawyer. It just doesn't work to me. I always figured it was just some kind of ridiculous self-censorship. God forbid the readers (who are not likely to be kids anyway) should glimpse the words shit or fuck. I just figure that the classics never go away. Fuck is a damn fine cuss word. And i can never call something "wiz" with a straight face. I just can't do it.
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post Mar 16 2007, 02:58 AM
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QUOTE (Eryk the Red)
Personally, I always thought most of the old slang was a bit ridiculous. I mean, decker made sense, what with cyberdecks and all, but 'drek'? The only person I've ever actually heard use the word 'drek' was a middle-aged Jewish lawyer. It just doesn't work to me. I always figured it was just some kind of ridiculous self-censorship. God forbid the readers (who are not likely to be kids anyway) should glimpse the words shit or fuck. I just figure that the classics never go away. Fuck is a damn fine cuss word. And i can never call something "wiz" with a straight face. I just can't do it.

I hear "drek" all the time. Of course the fact that I'm Jewish might have something to do with that... :)

But I don't mind having some variety of curse words; using the same "classic" few can get *very* monotonous.
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post Mar 16 2007, 03:43 AM
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My game runs not unlike reality, in that the way you talk is a reflection of you, your upbringing, etc. A humorous result of that (to me) is that old Shadowrun slang exists. But it is outdated, used by "old" folks who can't keep up with the times. It gets you snickered at, because culture has continued to evolve, and it left those words behind.

So yeah, there is definitely variety in the way people speak. But "frag" will never take the place of "fuck". It just doesn't have the impact.
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post Mar 16 2007, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE (Eryk the Red)
So yeah, there is definitely variety in the way people speak. But "frag" will never take the place of "fuck". It just doesn't have the impact.

"I'm going to frag you" and "I'm going to fuck you" certainly have different connotations.
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post Mar 16 2007, 03:57 AM
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QUOTE (Catharz Godfoot)
QUOTE (Eryk the Red @ Mar 15 2007, 10:43 PM)
So yeah, there is definitely variety in the way people speak. But "frag" will never take the place of "fuck". It just doesn't have the impact.

"I'm going to frag you" and "I'm going to fuck you" certainly have different connotations.

Indeed; the object of the epitaph would probably prefer the second option over the first.
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post Mar 16 2007, 04:04 AM
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QUOTE (bibliophile20)
QUOTE (Catharz Godfoot @ Mar 15 2007, 11:53 PM)
QUOTE (Eryk the Red @ Mar 15 2007, 10:43 PM)
So yeah, there is definitely variety in the way people speak. But "frag" will never take the place of "fuck". It just doesn't have the impact.

"I'm going to frag you" and "I'm going to fuck you" certainly have different connotations.

Indeed; the object of the epitaph would probably prefer the second option over the first.

Thanks for the compliment :D
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post Mar 16 2007, 05:59 AM
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QUOTE (Catharz Godfoot)
QUOTE (bibliophile20 @ Mar 15 2007, 10:57 PM)
QUOTE (Catharz Godfoot @ Mar 15 2007, 11:53 PM)
QUOTE (Eryk the Red @ Mar 15 2007, 10:43 PM)
So yeah, there is definitely variety in the way people speak. But "frag" will never take the place of "fuck". It just doesn't have the impact.

"I'm going to frag you" and "I'm going to fuck you" certainly have different connotations.

Indeed; the object of the epitaph would probably prefer the second option over the first.

Thanks for the compliment :D

well it's true; most people would prefer getting laid to having a live grenade laid on their lap when they're sleeping.
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post Mar 16 2007, 07:51 AM
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Our group is mixed to the point that frag and fuck routinely appear in the same conversation, used by the same character. This is largely due to the fact that myself and one other member of the group came in with old school SR, and the rest are newbies. We tried to hammer into the newbies that frag, drek, etc were the "proper" ways to swear in SR, then SR4 comes along and frags everything up.
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post Mar 16 2007, 08:09 AM
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i've never been able to bring myself to use frag, chummer, hoop, or even hoi. here's how i look at it: if i were playing a roleplaying game set in ancient Rome, my character might speak Latin and Greek, but i'd play him in English. in order to impart the desired emotional loading to my 206x character's words, i use 200x slang and assume that there's some OOC-to-IC translation taking place.
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post Mar 16 2007, 12:43 PM
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Sadly, I really can't use SR slangs as I don't play the game in english. As many knows translating something to other language many times ruins the original meaning of the word. Although I use some japanese, french, germanese, spanish and (of course) english words in my phrases but they don't usually are any of the SR slang words.
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post Mar 16 2007, 02:54 PM
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For me, the slang is a mindset. It's a quick touchstone to say "This isn't modern day." It also makes a nice way for a person that is nervous about rp to get in to it - they can simply pepper their speech with SRisms, and get more comfortable.

Of course, when we play fantasy games, I hit people that try to use Thee and Thou, so I'm kinda mixed up inside.
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post Mar 17 2007, 12:56 AM
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I just find it fun to use some of the old slang to keep the feel. To me I suppose it is as much a part of the setting as the company names like Ares and NeoNet. It just helps establish that right roleplay feel for me, but all in all I think its entirely a matter of personal opinion.
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post Mar 18 2007, 03:17 AM
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I use the old slang. This isn't CP3.0, it's Shadowrun. Shadowrun shouldn't sound like a hip-hop artist or the WinXP users manual.
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post Mar 18 2007, 03:47 AM
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I think I used the old SR slang more than any of the other guys in our group ever did. Just an occasional word here and there to spice things up a bit. As far as I know, no one ever got lost in translation with the "chummer" and such. But we didn't play it like robots just spouting the slang section of the BBB. If a real or made-up cuss word ended up in the conversation, it was just taken in stride, as long as everyone had an idea what had just been said.
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post Mar 18 2007, 08:18 AM
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Heh, I like using the older slang in real life. Occasionally I'll run into someone who gets my reference, usually not.

In game my chars would likely use it as well, as its almost second nature to me at this point. To be fair though, I'm not fully versed in the old style lingo, I sorta use specific ones, or come up with my own meld.
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