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> help me reverst my strict Gm's house-rule, img magn v3 + combat
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post Nov 5 2003, 04:36 AM
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Hardly. Invisible ink! :rotfl:
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post Nov 5 2003, 04:53 AM
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Ok, should I assume you are being sarcastic as well?
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post Nov 5 2003, 05:23 AM
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Ok, should I assume you are being sarcastic as well?

No, he's being facetious. ;)
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post Nov 5 2003, 06:22 AM
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Ack! More BIG words! Blast my shallow vocabulary!
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post Nov 5 2003, 07:41 AM
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Shadow, seeing that this is the thread for pedantics, I have to say that rifle only has one 'f' in it. :)

Pedants, not pedantics.

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post Nov 5 2003, 07:42 AM
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Now that's pedantic! :D
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post Nov 5 2003, 11:48 AM
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I don't think so.
The clip in question is the clip of ammo used in the M-1 Garand. If you've ever played Medal of Honor, you know how it can occasionally be a pain in the ass.
I'm sure a similar system was used in other weapons but I don't personally know.
I believe the internal magazine on a shotgun has no other name.

There are IIRC two styles of clips IRL:

Mauser style like used in Karabiner 98k or Gewehr 42/43 are "stripper clips" that hold the round until you load them into the magazine. Then you fit the clip, push the round into the magazine and retrieve the empty clip (IIRC it's reusable). The weapon can alternatively be loaded by loose rounds, the clip just eases the process (I.E the G43 uses a 10-round box magazine loaded with two 5-round clips)

Manlicher style (like the M1 Garand clip) are inserted into the magazine and remain there until emptied. Some are reusable, some (like the M1 Garands) are not. IIRC you can not "top of" weapons of this type, often you are even unable to load single rounds.

In german the clips are called "Ladestreifen" (loading strips / loading clips)


The german term for Wincherster-style underbarrel magazines is "Röhrenmagazin" or "tubular magazin" (AFAIK thats the term used in the US also).


Michael

"This is the H&K G3A3 battle rifle. It makes a very distinct sound if you load the first round. It also makes a distinct sound when you fire it. But since you are wearing sound dampers and the target will be dead before the sound reaches it, that sound does not matter." (German StaffSgt Graf doing the "Hartbreak Ridge")
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post Nov 5 2003, 02:27 PM
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I don't see the price for a magazine in any of my SR books, but I see the cost of a clip is 5 nuyen.:)
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post Nov 5 2003, 03:50 PM
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Doesn't SR use the term Clip to refer to a removeable magazine and Magazine to refer to an internal magazine, i.e. where you load the rounds in manually one at a time?

If so it was technically correct (in terms of SR) to use the term Clip when refering to SMGs.

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post Nov 5 2003, 04:04 PM
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Those are the correct terms according to SR3.
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post Nov 5 2003, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (spotlite @ Nov 4 2003, 09:02 AM)
Bottom line, having 2 smartlinks and firing 2 weapons at once isn't specifically covered by the rules,

It actually is. SR3 PG112 under the heading, using a second firearm

You have a point. And it states that you lose all target modifiers like smartlinks, scopes, sights etc, and that each weapon takes a +2 TN. Seems fair enough to me!
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post Nov 6 2003, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (Zazen @ Nov 4 2003, 10:18 PM)
QUOTE (PlutoNick @ Nov 3 2003, 02:55 PM)
Still, I prove that the GM instead of checking the rulebook, he arbitrarily made a house rule. SR3 is flawless after all. The faq was right.

I have played in games where the GM often makes that mistake. Instead of spending 15 minutes pawing through the books looking for an obscure rule, he obnoxiously makes up a quick rule and moves the game along. What an asshole.

He's an asshole? For NOT wasting 15 minutes on something that he could check after the game? He could then start the next game with the correction. No interruptions.

I always apologize to my group for mistakes and such that I make. It happens. That's why I am always asking questions here.

15 minutes is a chunk. Some groups can't lose that much time.

Just to make things clear. I dont expect the gm to search the rule book during gameplay, but during sessions. I was sarcastic too as well tho. We love our GM, without him we wouldn't play this faboulous game, and just in case he wonders in this thread, we certainly dont want him to get angry, or next time a dozen of street samurai [with combat reflextes turned on] will be knocking our door. Or whatever's left from it
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