 Rethinking and rebuilding the internet, Think they'll call it the Matrix? |
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 Apr 14 2007, 05:01 AM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737  |
Rebuilding the Internet
I've been playing Shadowrun too much lately... because my first thought, even though I was being humorous, was "Wait, it's not 2029 yet!" |
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Apr 14 2007, 06:12 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i really hope they rebuild html at the same time. web design is like trying to build houses on a beach in an earthquake.
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Apr 14 2007, 12:06 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Well, of course. It's all VRML these days.
~J |
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Apr 14 2007, 01:55 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Am I the only one that's reading that entire article as "governments and corporations are pressuring anyone and everyone they can think of in an effort to make the internet easier to control, tax, and censor"?
Nah, I can't be. |
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Apr 14 2007, 02:10 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Vint Cerf is generally ok, as far as I've been able to tell. The remainder of your concerns are wholly valid.
~J |
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Apr 14 2007, 02:48 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
And... you're surprised by this? I would be more surprised if they hadn't been doing so. |
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Apr 14 2007, 03:03 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Surprised? Not really. Surprised it took this long? Yes. Happy about any of it? Probably not.
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Apr 14 2007, 04:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Montevideo, in the elusive shadows of Latin America Member No.: 7,727 |
scared?
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Apr 14 2007, 05:46 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Not really. Disgusted, more like.
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Apr 14 2007, 07:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
Congress keep funding a program for 15 years that doesn't buy them votes in the next election? Not likely.
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Apr 14 2007, 08:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 5-April 07 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 11,383 |
So you're saying that law enforcement agencies will be able to see what we are typing on these forums and then bust us all be cause they think we are in some sort of terrorist group called "shadowrun" and are plotting against corporations and governments.
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Apr 14 2007, 08:17 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
Nah, we're obviously far too materialistic to be considered a threat, they're going to hire us all as anti-terrorist advisors.
[ Spoiler ]
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Apr 16 2007, 04:08 AM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
odinson is, if I'm not mistaken, referring to the Steve Jackson Games incident.
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Apr 16 2007, 04:43 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
"Steve Jackson Game incident"? Details please... this sounds interesting. |
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Apr 16 2007, 06:32 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Well the short version of the story is that the FBI decided to raid SJG because GURPS Cyberpunk had 'Hacking Rules' and therefore must be teaching people criminal activities.
Suposedly they had to completely rewrite large sections of the book because SJG didn't have safe backups and the FBI never returned the computers they took. *** However, I've always thought that the story sounded somewhat 'fishy' to me, after all, I'm suppose to believe that SJG keeps all of their eggs in one basket and ignore that the story could be used as the perfect excuse to hide a deadline slip? Meh, maybe I've been playing in the Cyberpunk genre for too long... |
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Apr 16 2007, 06:45 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
The US Secret Service, believing that the RPG was a conspiratorial document about actual computer crime, seized all copies of the GURPS Cyberpunk manuscript and computers that were used in the creation of the book. This forced Steve Jackson Games to start over from scratch and cost them a great deal of money.
http://www.sjgames.com/SS/ The raid was conducted because one of SJ Games employees, Loyd Blankenship, hosted a copy of the hacker newsletter /Phrak, which had published a text document containing administrative information about the E911 system, on his personal BBS. Information contained in this document was available to the public for free and Bell South sold hardcopies for 20 dollars. However, a teenage cracker broke into a Bell South system and made a copy of this document and Bell South spun the incident with the untrue assertion that the document contained secret information that could be used to destroy the entire 911 system, killing untold millions and causing general chaos and the Secret Service went after anyone with even periphery involvement in the incident. Remember, this was at a time when the vast majority of people, including law enforcement, wouldn't be able to identify a computer if one fell on their heads. The general lack of knowledge about how these things worked left the Secret Service a the mercy of Bell South's spin doctors and made it rather impossible for them to tell the difference between a harmless game and document furthering a terrorist conspiracy to destroy 911 service across the nation. |
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Apr 16 2007, 01:18 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
That... that is sad but I am so not surprised. Not in the slightest. (and I can't tell which is the sadder part--their actions, or that they didn't surprise me)
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Apr 16 2007, 04:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 28-July 05 Member No.: 7,526 |
... and by that time their work could already be outdated.
We need Al Gore to take time out of his war against global warming and just invent another internet. |
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Apr 16 2007, 04:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
I remember that. It is even mentioned in later editions of Cyberpunk. All it would have taken was 15 minutes reading the book to realize it had no practical applications to real world hacking. |
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Apr 16 2007, 04:58 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I fixed that for you, which should help illustrate the problem. ~J |
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