 Sleep Regulators on the way, University of Wisconsin-Madison |
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 May 8 2007, 02:00 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 398 Joined: 16-August 06 Member No.: 9,130  |
They have created a device that will allow you to get a full 8-hour sleep in just 3 hours.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,300...1264358,00.html |
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May 8 2007, 02:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 8,863 |
great, then they can extend the working hours for all us not of the upper class.
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May 8 2007, 03:01 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
hmm, sounds like a power nap to me...
anyways, im all for it. my sleep pattern really needs regulating... |
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May 8 2007, 04:00 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 18-March 07 From: Somewhere between here and there. Member No.: 11,250 |
Uhh, i would so like that thing :)
I hope i will not cost 10.000 new yen... hehe :D |
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May 8 2007, 04:49 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
So if you could get all the sleep you need per 24-hour period in just 3 hours, how would you do it? Even though you've had a "full night's sleep" you probably can't stay up for the 21 hours until your next sleep cycle. Well, you could, but I typically get tired after being awake for 21 hours straight. Would you need to sleep 2 hours at night and then have a 1 hour super-siesta, to make it through your day?
Basically, here's what I'm wondering: Assume normal person sleeps for 8 hours and is awake for 16 out of a 24 hour cycle. If you suddenly convert your 8 hours into 3, are you still only good for 16 hours of awake time, or are you good for the full 24 hour cycle so you can function well for 21 hours? I haven't read any studies about people with a reduced need for sleep to see whether that need to sleep comes back after a set time of being awake, or based on your natural 24 (technically more like 25) hour internal clock. |
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May 9 2007, 11:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 983 Joined: 20-February 06 Member No.: 8,286 |
So is it possible to make some sort of sleep-wave transmitter that could, say, put someone (or many someones) to sleep from a distance?
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May 9 2007, 02:47 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 9,636 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Me, I'd do two 3-hour stints under the machine a day and finally catch up on all those years of sleep debt, and still work and party at full speed! |
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May 9 2007, 03:34 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
I recall reading about a woman who volunteered for an insomnia study because she only got 1-3 hours of sleep a night since she was a baby. She wasn't sleep deprived, and seldom took naps. The researchers originally didn't want to study her because she was suffering no ill effects, but basically learned that she went straight to REM and stayed there for the duration of her sleep cycle. When her brain was done recharging or recuperating or whatever she was good for more than 20 hours. If I recall correctly, she was in her 50s or 60s at the time of the study, and in perfect health.
So, no, you probably wouldn't need a nappy-poo. |
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May 9 2007, 05:45 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 1-May 07 Member No.: 11,575 |
I would imagine that even with 3 hours of sleep, if you work construction or something, you'll still need more time to rest.
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May 9 2007, 05:59 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...agreed, it wouldn't do much for physical fatigue. However, I can see it being popular at finals time.
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May 9 2007, 07:37 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
And you dont get the side effects of heavy speed use;) did anyone read that article on del.isi.us btw?
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May 9 2007, 07:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 28-July 05 Member No.: 7,526 |
that reminds me: for fatigue there's the glove! But back to the topic, if you read the article it's not something that induces sleep. No sleepy raygun yet :) According to this line:
wouldn't it take about 6 hours to get the benefits of 8 hrs of sleep? :(
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May 9 2007, 08:05 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Sound like a device to degauss the brain.
Just the thing we need... |
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May 10 2007, 02:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 30-December 06 Member No.: 10,493 |
A person needs about 4 hours of slow wave sleep to, as Rotbart van Dainig says, "degauss the brain."
Normally you go through cycles of REM sleep and slow wave sleep, until you've had about 4 hours of slow wave, after which it's basically just REM. Your brain calibrates itself to the amount of sleep you normally get, making it so that the REM and slow wave cycles are balanced to give you ~4 hours of slow wave regardless of whether you sleep for 5, 6, 9, or 12 hours a day. You can slowly work your way down by sleeping less each week. Volunteers studied have managed to work their way down to about 4-5 hours a night becore they can't take it anymore. When they stop trying to sleep less each week, they keep the reduction (permenantly) to some extent, usually sleeping 2 hours less than they did before the study. Anyway, if you use this device you'll never dream. |
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May 10 2007, 03:00 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 30-January 07 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 10,845 |
As an automotive mechanic, getting up sucks, whether Ive had 2hrs sleep or 10. There is never enough. I would still probably sleep as much, though it would be great to have some guarantee that I got all the necissary sleep.
And sleep doesnt help body soreness, as your metabolism is lower than normal. Not sure how the inactivity helps recuperation, but sitting in front of the TV is about as good as that. |
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May 10 2007, 08:12 AM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
That sounds too good to be true. On the other hand, it might be that you still dream, just you dream will look like a CRT monitor after hitting the degauss button... |
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May 10 2007, 04:42 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
So, you're saying this thing might need a REM stimulation mode as well, so that it can let you dream? 'Cause I've always been told that bad things happen to your mind if you don't dream. (No actual evidence, mind you, but the idea does make me nervous.)
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May 10 2007, 05:05 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
given the dreams i have been having lately, i would prefer not to dream while sleeping...
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May 10 2007, 10:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 30-December 06 Member No.: 10,493 |
Nah, you don't need the REM sleep at all, as far as anyone knows. |
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May 10 2007, 11:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Houston, Texas Member No.: 11,448 |
Sleep studies have proven that its only during REM sleep that certain kinds of resting occur. If you never make it into REM(the patients in the test were awakened as soon as they made REM), you'll gradually begin to feel more and more fatigued. Like was stated before, if youre denied REM sleep, eventually your brain will jump into REM sooner to compensate. |
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May 11 2007, 03:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 24-March 05 From: On a ledge between Heaven and Hell Member No.: 7,226 |
Side effects from the sleep device might be addition and insanity. |
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May 11 2007, 03:31 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Most people are addicted to sleep, anyway. Now, the insanity part... well, we already live in interesting times. |
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May 11 2007, 03:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 24-March 05 From: On a ledge between Heaven and Hell Member No.: 7,226 |
not additction to sleep but to the device, kinda like an addiction to sleeping pills.
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May 11 2007, 04:41 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
well sleeping pills share chemicals with opium i think so its not 100% the same... |
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May 11 2007, 04:46 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
True, it's not necessarily going to be like sleeping pills, but I can imagine a situation where the brain sort of forgets how to fall asleep after using this device.
Of course, after a few days of being insomniac and kinda crazy I'm sure you'd fall asleep eventually, and probably get back onto a normal biological track soon enough. |
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