Magical Compound: Deepweed, whom does it affect? |
Magical Compound: Deepweed, whom does it affect? |
May 14 2007, 06:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 28-May 03 From: Orlando Member No.: 4,644 |
Hoi, I am having a conversation with a tablemate on whether or not Deepweed affects Mundanes as it does Awakened. SR4 Core p249
Street Magic p. 88
So the debate is whether or not Deepweed constitutes a magical compound. Thoughts? |
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May 14 2007, 06:57 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 5-April 07 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 11,383 |
It affects mundanes. They would only get the +1 willpower as it explicitly states that it only forces awakened characters to astrally perceive.
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May 14 2007, 12:13 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
In SR4, Deepweed is a drug, not a magical compound.
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May 14 2007, 02:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 28-July 05 Member No.: 7,526 |
Deepweed + GloMoss = mage detector
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May 14 2007, 02:54 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
"Sir, please smoke this joint and stand under the mistletoe."
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May 14 2007, 06:58 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Now that sounds like a party! 8) |
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May 15 2007, 12:19 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 12-April 07 From: Ork Underground Member No.: 11,440 |
:::Horned Man Spirit Possesses offerer:::: :::Dark Goddess Spirit Possesses taker:::: ::Deep Male Voice is heard:: "Long time no see Babe, shall we get on with it?" ::Sultry Female Voice is heard:: "Sure you are up for it this time?" :::Male and Female laughter is heard::: :D :D :D |
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May 15 2007, 01:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 24-March 05 From: On a ledge between Heaven and Hell Member No.: 7,226 |
Have a difficult time thinking of DeepWeed as Kelp.
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May 15 2007, 06:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 28-May 03 From: Orlando Member No.: 4,644 |
AH, I know it is listed as a Street Drug in the Core rules, but as I pointed out it is derived from awakened kelp base, could this be an alchemical process? And as a process it is labeled in SM as a compound. A basic compound is mixing two or more separate products to form a new product. The reason behind the question is can we force a mundane to smoke/ingest Deepweed and in turn astrally percieve? I thought this was mentioned in the Hong Kong section of Runners Havens? |
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May 15 2007, 08:02 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 13-July 06 From: Long Beach Sacrifice Zone Member No.: 8,885 |
It doesn't look likely that Deepweed (as described) makes mundanes astrally perceive. But there's no reason you can't refine it alchemically to create a version that does, as long as your GM is cool with that. But if it's strong enough to make mundanes perceive, it's likely to launch any magically active being. Maybe you've just invented the magical equivalent of steroids.
Sure, there's a good argument you could use a misting/vaporizing device or other type of inhaler to quickly administer ReallyDeepweed, but that's problematic as if your target IS a mage, he or she is not going to react to being dosed in a kindly way... especially if you're within arm's reach. A better method is the old SuperSquirt or injector arrows/bolts. This means your target is dosed at range (no risk of deathtouch for you!) and you can have your mage friend waiting in astral space with a REALLY BIG HAMMER playing whack an astrally perceiving mole. However, as a security measure this fails, as there's going to be not a few complaints about everyone being stoned out of their gourd after passing the checkpoint. |
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May 15 2007, 11:48 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
I think I know the reference you're thinking about. More will be explained in an upcoming sourcebook. As it stands, Deepweed does not force mundanes to astrally perceive. Now, that's not to say you couldn't have a magical compound that has a similar effect-just follow the guidelines set down in Street Magic. |
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