 The psycological impact of organlegging, Who did your hand come from? |
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 May 19 2007, 03:10 PM
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Midnight Toker  Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456  |
While you may fully accept someone else's heart would you be so able to accept a miss-matched Frankenstein hand or a mismatched Frankenstein penis?
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May 19 2007, 03:48 PM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Also something to remember is that at least in the First World we tend to have so much free time and realatively easy lives that we tend to make up all sorts of new stresses to fill in the gap.
As for me, well, I know that I'd rather have a fully functioning hand or penis then no hand or penis. Now, would I rather have one that "matched" the rest of me, most certainly, and I would probably accept a matching hand/penis that wasn't as 'good' in some way as a non-matching one if given the choice. But above all else, I would rather have a complete body then not, no matter where the pieces came from. |
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May 20 2007, 03:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 22-November 06 Member No.: 9,934 |
the impact of the implant is completely psychological and the implantee does not retain the "DNA" of the donor after a period of time because its your blood in the implant and your tissue that begins replicating to repair lost cells etc... people are scared of anything "new" or "unknown." |
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May 20 2007, 04:10 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Hmm, so does that mean that theorically speaking, if a mismatched hand was implanted on someone (A white hand on a black man or visa-versa.) that as time wore on the implanted hand would change color to match the rest of the person's body?
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May 20 2007, 04:40 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 24-March 05 From: On a ledge between Heaven and Hell Member No.: 7,226 |
Couldn't you just die it the right color?
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May 20 2007, 05:00 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Depending on who you believe, Michael Jackson might provide the answer.
~J |
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May 20 2007, 05:05 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Well sure you could Demon_Bob, but I'm curious whether or not it would happen over time naturally.
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May 20 2007, 05:33 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
:proof: http://www.plasreconsurg.org/pt/re/prs/abs...#33;8091!-1 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...6&dopt=Citation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitosis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_%28genetics%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Fairchild Everything I know about human chimerism, including organ transplants, suggests that the organ recipient will maintain two seperate cell lines with separate DNA for the rest of his life. Blood cells don't magically become skin cells or bone cells or muscle cells or liver cells or kidney cells. Kidney cells create new kidney cells, liver cells create new liver cells, skin cells create new skin cells, bone cells create new bone cells, and muscle cells create new muscle cells. So long as the cells remain alive, they'll continue to undergo mitosis and reproduce, even if they are fed by a foreign blood supply. And, in the case of limb (other than the fifth) transplants, marrow in the donated limb will create blood cells with the donor's DNA which will mingle with the rest of the recipient's blood, unless the marrow is killed first. Both live marrow and dead marrow offer their own advantages. With live marrow, the risk of rejection is significantly reduced because the recipient will have immune cells with the donor's DNA but this creates a risk of graft-vs-host disease, where these immune cells attack the recipient's body. |
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May 20 2007, 06:32 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
All I can think of is Young Frankenstein right now. "Well, if the monster got half of your brain, what did you get from him?" |
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May 21 2007, 09:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 22-November 06 Member No.: 9,934 |
we won't know until it happens... kinda makes you wonder what the liver transplants are going to look like in the future. |
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May 23 2007, 06:52 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Bellingham, Salish-Sidhe Council Member No.: 5,966 |
I feel like we're missing an important issue here. Such as how did he lose his penis in the first place?! :eek:
Maybe I shouldn't be thinking about such things, but propriety be damned, cause I'd rather like to avoid doing whatever this poor sap did. |
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May 23 2007, 09:08 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
heh, well, can you die the wrong color? OH NOES RACEISM sorry. puns, hard to resist. |
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May 23 2007, 02:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 5-January 06 From: Louisiana Member No.: 8,132 |
In my 'A-Team Chronicles' campaign, the human mercenary Jonathan has a gadget-laden cyberarm that's a secondhand piece of ware from a guy named Brundle. This Brundle Arm is glitchy -- some would say haunted -- and on rare occasions seems to act of its own accord...Slapping teammates, breaking bottles over the mercenary's head, etc.
It's not really a plot device, more like something I can exploit for comic relief -- but it creates enough of a worry for the PC that he is constantly weighing the benefits of replacing it and losing the the 750,000¥-worth of goodies built in, or sucking it up and living with a wacky cyberarm. |
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May 23 2007, 03:26 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
When you are a Shadowrunner, you make enemies. And sometimes, those enemies cut off your penis. They laugh and leave you to bleed to death, but you have symbiotes, so you have time to make it to the street doc that owes you one. He patches you up. You tell him not to reattach a penis just yet, as you have to earn it back. So you hunt down your enemies with savage and cold ferocity, and you kill each one of them. Once you've finally killed them all, you go see your street doc, and you tell him, you tell him you are ready to have a penis reattached. And he reattaches a penis. Someone else's penis, since you can't afford the custom vat grown variety. It's an uglier penis than you had, but it's ok, cause you earned it. It's a badge of honor now. |
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May 23 2007, 05:13 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
hm. actually kinda tempting to play that guy. you know how really bad stuff never seems to happen to main characters? how they never seem to take any really permanent damage? i've always hated that. it seems more interesting to me to play a guy who takes that and doesn't die or quit--he survives, he overcomes, and you better not fuck with him because there's nothing you can do to him that's worse than what he's already been through.
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May 23 2007, 05:58 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
I sure as fuck would not mess with a guy that has decided to kill his enemies before having his dick reattached. You can't really sidetrack a guy like that.
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