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post Jun 10 2007, 05:53 PM
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/me hangs his head and sighs.

Tis a sad sad day when it take a normal player to do the Wiki Staff's job. :P

GJ on the initiative, Abbandon. Thanks for fixing his errors, Vegas. :D

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Once you get the character sheet and gear listing completed, I'll look over it for mechanical errors. The faster you get it done, the closer you are to gameplay.
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post Jun 10 2007, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (Konsaki)
Tis a sad sad day when it take a normal player to do the Wiki Staff's job. :P

On second thought. Boo-urns. Omae's Beast Jr hadn't been given the greenlight by WinterRat1, so actually, he doesn't need sheets yet and we've managed to jump the gun here.

So. There.

Same with Voorhees' Aziz.
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post Jun 10 2007, 08:54 PM
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O'rly? :S

Well, good on you guys then.
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post Jun 10 2007, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (WinterRat1)
Welcome aboard Omae!

I took that as a greenlight.
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post Jun 10 2007, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (Abbandon)
QUOTE (WinterRat1 @ Jun 7 2007, 02:06 PM)
Welcome aboard Omae!

I took that as a greenlight.

Yes, but WR1 has yet to approve of his backstory/30 questions. That's the important first step to joining the game.
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post Jun 10 2007, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (Abbandon)
QUOTE (WinterRat1 @ Jun 7 2007, 02:06 PM)
Welcome aboard Omae!

I took that as a greenlight.

Wow. Really?
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post Jun 10 2007, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (Konsaki)
O'rly? :S

Well, good on you guys then.

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post Jun 10 2007, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE (Vegas)
QUOTE (Konsaki @ Jun 10 2007, 03:54 PM)
O'rly?  :S

Well, good on you guys then.

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post Jun 10 2007, 09:13 PM
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I just couldn't resist.. I love the lil owl ASCII :)
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post Jun 10 2007, 09:16 PM
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That reminds me....I wanted to suggest Omae his character should be called Flp, Bruce, or Banner. Bruce banner = hulk. Flip cuz if you flip his switch he goes ape ^$#@. I loved the drug tie in that makes aggressive but i mean if he gets angry about stuff to the point of looking for drugs to help him out would he really be that cowardly?
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post Jun 10 2007, 10:01 PM
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Do you have room for Aziz?

Oh wait, Aziz got eaten. Any chance of that un-happening? Like, maybe he was out getting a taco?


Voorhees - Go ahead and submit your character to Konsaki for review and the wiki GMs to start putting Aziz up. I already know the concept so I don't need to reapprove it.

In your background, you should note Aziz did in fact escape from the massacre by the 162s. Shade and Felix won't know this yet though until you turn up in game, so Shade's Journal will remain the same, for now. As far as they know, you're ghoul food.

Also, keep in mind that while the character generation rules were based on Tinkergnome's 410 Crash game, there are some significant differences, so you'll have to tinker with Aziz to bring them in line with our requirements. Notable is that his Blades (Katana) skill of 5(7) will have to be dropped to 2(4). I don't remember anything else off the top of my head.

For you, I am also requiring that if you don't get to any of the other takes prior to game start, you must write a take for Halo, Felix, and Shade. The takes for those three chracters should be at least a paragraph or so, and should include some sense of history, since now they've all been together through two gang exterminations and quite a bit more. I need to get some sense of how he really feels about them on an inner level beyond the superficial. I will need this information to properly plan my opening scenes for those characters and Aziz.

Let me know if you've got any other questions, otherwise feel free to get rolling.
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post Jun 10 2007, 10:05 PM
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I'll set up pages for Aziz.. should be up in a few minutes
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post Jun 10 2007, 10:07 PM
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Aye aye, captain!

Uh, I'm kinda rusty on Wikispaces, how do I make a page for Aziz? Ah. Nevermind then.
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post Jun 10 2007, 10:10 PM
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Omae - I like the character concept and 30 questions. Couple things:

1. Don't feel obligated to raise your Agility. I admire your guts in putting an Agility of 2. Shows serious commitment to role-playing the concept. If you want to change it per an earlier suggestion it's obviously your choice, but I was impressed with the Agility of 2.

2. For the sake of fitting Beast Jr into the world better, would you be opposed to changing Father Pedro to Father Ron of the Black Plague? They're pretty much the exact same, except with a different name, and I have a hard time imagining there's two basically identical guys doing basically the same thing in Kingsgate.

3. That being said, Beast Jr. sounds like a Black Plague member through and through. Why would he join up with the NPCG instead of the Black Plague, especially if Father Ron is part of the Black Plague (assuming you change Father Pedro to Father Ron per my request above)?

By way of suggestion, if you read the locales section, you'll note there were several gang rapes that forced the Salvation Army to stop sending female workers into Kingsgate. Their office is located in the Black Plague's turf. Perhaps he witnessed the gang rape of one of those female workers by the Black Plague and that turned him off to them, because that's not what heroes do. Maybe he secretly hates the gang but doesn't feel he can do anything about it...until the NPCG rises from the ashes with their leader of justice and righteousness, Legion!!! (OK scratch the justice and righteousness and replace it with 'less unjust and less unrighteous than the Black Plague')

I'm open to other ideas, this was just a suggestion. The bottom line is, he sounds built to be a Black Plaguer through and through, so you need to come up with a reason and way for him to join the NPCG. Thoughts?
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post Jun 10 2007, 10:12 PM
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Pages are up.. talked to Voorhees to join the wikispace too.
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post Jun 10 2007, 10:12 PM
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Aye aye, captain!

Uh, I'm kinda rusty on Wikispaces, how do I make a page for Aziz? Ah. Nevermind then.


If you don't feel comfortable with wikispaces, rather than incur the wrath of the Wikitron and Wikisaurus Rexes, best to allow them to do it and simply send requests their way. :)
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post Jun 10 2007, 10:25 PM
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Nah, I got it. I did most of the work last night, so its a simple matter of plugging in numbers.
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post Jun 11 2007, 11:11 PM
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@WR1
I haven't read about the black plague, but I will today and link it together as you said, as well as Father Ron

@Abbandon
It's not his angry enough to go find drug, it's like when he was younger he used to beat up by the local gangs, it's more like mental trauma per se, and he does not wants to be coward, 'cuz heros are not coward. One reason to get addicted is the drugs effect. It makes user feeling of imperviousness and invincibilty, exhibiting almost no regard for their own well-being.
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post Jun 11 2007, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (Omae)
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I haven't read about the black plague, but I will today and link it together as you said, as well as Father Ron.

Um... That's going to be the problem then. The Black Plague are still alive as a gang and jumping from one gang to another isnt really good for your health...
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post Jun 11 2007, 11:26 PM
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@Konsaki
well, Beast Jr. could have gone to go through the initiation for the Black Plague, but couldn't do it. So, even though he does believe what the Father Ron's idea of the gang and such, he decided, and I'm pretty sure other gang members of Black Plagues thinks, Beast Jr. is not fit to be one of their soldier. He saw rise rise of NPCG and he thought he could try this new gang, may be convince this new gang to follow or at least think about his/Father Ron's idea of gang

it's bit murky but after night of party, my brain only works this far...
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post Jun 11 2007, 11:36 PM
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There is mistake on my character

1. Athletic Group Skill should be at rating 1

2. Unarmed Combat is missing *I still don't know WR1 is going to allow my first idea but sill it's missing from CS at wiki

3. Pistol skill rating is at 2, it should be at 1
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post Jun 11 2007, 11:54 PM
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Omae you may want to take any probs over to the Planning thread. It seems to be the OOC thread for now. You might get more response
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post Jun 11 2007, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Omae)
There is mistake on my character

1. Athletic Group Skill should be at rating 1

2. Unarmed Combat is missing *I still don't know WR1 is going to allow my first idea but sill it's missing from CS at wiki

3. Pistol skill rating is at 2, it should be at 1

Omae,

Looks like the changes to Athletics Group and Pistols you made already...

as for Unarmed combat there was already a generic ruling in the other thread buried deep in it so I looked back and found this:

QUOTE (konsaki @ DITG Thread)

2 - The spec (Martial Arts) is disallowed in this game per CharGen rules. This includes all forms of martial arts as a spec. You may choose one of the following as a spec for 'Unarmed Combat': Offensive (+2 to attacks), Defensive(+2 to defense), Submission(+2 to Grappling)


Hope that helps clear things up so you can finish your sheet and get in the game.
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post Jun 12 2007, 04:28 AM
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well, Beast Jr. could have gone to go through the initiation for the Black Plague, but couldn't do it. So, even though he does believe what the Father Ron's idea of the gang and such, he decided, and I'm pretty sure other gang members of Black Plagues thinks, Beast Jr. is not fit to be one of their soldier. He saw rise rise of NPCG and he thought he could try this new gang, may be convince this new gang to follow or at least think about his/Father Ron's idea of gang

it's bit murky but after night of party, my brain only works this far...


Here's my thoughts Omae. You don't just 'try out' for a gang, and if that doesn't work, maybe you'll try another, and if you don't like that one, well there's always another that might be more to your liking.

Beast Jr. does not have the ability to pull that kind of gang hopping off without being made an example of.

My suggestion is that he tried to join the Black Plague but couldn't bring himself to do it because of reason X, probably because of their racism and brutality against humans, because heroes don't do that.

You think they'll let him stick around after knowing he can't hack it? The beatings and taunts and harassment you mentioned earlier would escalate through the roof, and he'd be much more likely to join the NPCG just to survive.

Sure, it'd be nice to convince this new gang to be good guys, like Father Ron's vision, but at the end of the day, it's pretty hard to convince anyone of anything when you're dead.

Hence, he joins NPCG because they need warm bodies and he needs a place to go to stop the Black Plague from escalating their harassment of him until it ends up with him dead.

Down the road, as he gains credibility, he can start trying to influence the direction of the gang, but right now short term needs trump long term ideals. That's my suggestion if you are stuck, but I suggest doing something quickly to get your character ready before Konsaki and I officially move onto the story planning/opening post prep.
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post Jun 12 2007, 04:36 AM
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@WR1

I think your suggestion is much better then my murky story up there. I accepts your suggestion and will adapt to my story.
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