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DwarvenBootBoy
post Jun 23 2007, 10:27 PM
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What kinds of music are popular in the Shadowrun world??? I'm making a Dwarven BootBoy for the new campaign.I'm goin to have him be into 21st century
& "modern" Streetpunk/Oi! ,HxC & Ska.I'll probally make up some bands for my GM to use in the campaign.
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post Jun 23 2007, 10:38 PM
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Imagine making a human bootboy in the 2000s and having him be into swing jazz and the like. If you can take him seriously, go ahead with your plan.

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post Jun 23 2007, 10:43 PM
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And just what's wrong with swing jazz?
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post Jun 23 2007, 11:08 PM
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post Jun 23 2007, 11:08 PM
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Nothing, apart from the fact that street toughs don't usually listen to a lot of it, despite being the rebellious youth music from eighty years ago.

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post Jun 24 2007, 01:13 AM
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It all depends on how you want to play it. From some of the novels and supplements I've read about the SR world most music is pretty much lame if it's put out by the corps. Take a look at most popular music today.

Now that being said I could see some music lasting the test of time. Rolling Stones, The Who, The Doors, AC/DC, hell maybe even Danzig would still be around in small doses or remade for the 10th time by some SR world band.

When players ask me what SR music sounds like I say depends on the genre. For instance I would think that Troll Metal sounds like Rage Against the Machine fused with Kataklysm. Brutally Hard Death Metal with a political message. Some huge 7 foot Troll with a Death Metal growl would scare the s**t out of anyone! Especially if the Troll in question was a she!

Hip Hop and Rap might still be around but the only good stuff would be put out by underground labels and be more regional. It wouldn't be as popular in the main stream as it is today.

Basically any fashion and pop culture in SR is just a hyped reflection of the time period when the writer wrote said supplement or novel. All the early SR stuff is 80's punk music themed. So take from that what you will. Do what you want and make the world your own.
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post Jun 24 2007, 01:32 AM
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You should have your character listen to emo, and then have to explain to every single player you play with that emo isn't what they think it is.

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post Jun 24 2007, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
You should have your character listen to emo, and then have to explain to every single player you play with that emo isn't what they think it is.

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LOL! Nice.
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post Jun 24 2007, 09:46 AM
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There is also Or'zet rap. Gangsta rap straight from the 'hood in a language for orks. Sota 2064 again.
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post Jun 24 2007, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE (Lazarus)
Now that being said I could see some music lasting the test of time. Rolling Stones, The Who, The Doors, AC/DC, hell maybe even Danzig would still be around in small doses or remade for the 10th time by some SR world band.

I agree that some somewhat contemporary music will likely survive and become "classic".

It always irks me when a show like Star Trek would always play classical (Mozart, Wagner, Beethoven, etc.) music. Maybe they were just cheap and playing public domain stuff.
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post Jun 24 2007, 05:18 PM
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Well I like Futurerama's take on "Clasical Music". :cyber:

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However I'd be more inclined to say that Star Trek, ect is guilty of being lazy and not wanting to trust the viewers to remember Classical Music won't mean the same thing in the future as it does now.
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post Jun 24 2007, 06:58 PM
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Possible derail:

In regards to the use of classical music in Star Trek - The use of said music is a thematic element. Picard, the captain who most often played classical music, had an affinity for the past: from wooden sailing ships to French vineyards and archaeology. His appreciation for music was meant to showcase his upbringing as well as thematically connect the characters to the past, to his and the crews' relationship to their oceangoing forebearers, hundreds of years in the past. As well, the appreciation of classical music has long been a staple of gentility, of which Starfleet officers are meant to be a shining example of. Considering the use, I don't think classifying it as lazy is a fair statement.
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post Jun 24 2007, 07:05 PM
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'Strue. There's also the fact that the canon of Classical music is music that has already endured for between four hundred and a hundred years (ok, so the old stuff is more properly Baroque, and the new stuff more properly Romantic, but just you try picking five random people off the street and seeing who knows the difference). Once it's lasted this long, another few hundred years doesn't seem that odd.

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post Jun 25 2007, 12:28 AM
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I gotta agree with Kage here. Classical music will always be with us. It's part of Western culture. I don't see Symphonies going away. Now it may only be Corp types who pretend to like it but it will still be around.

Basically you could play a character who likes just about anything. You can always put in your background something like "My grandmother used to play me her old New Kids on the Block CDs when I was a kid" for your Troll Street Sammie and DARE anyone to say something.

I had a player whose Ork Merc liked Michael Jackson. The whole catalog. Seriously. Background knowledge 6 in the skill and spent karma to get it up to a 9. He also liked John Hughes' films. Had a 5 in that skill. Dude you can't help but love a character who has a framed Sixteen Candles poster in his squat where he keeps his Stoner Ares in the closet. He spent 1500 nuyen on that poster.
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post Jun 25 2007, 12:56 AM
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I think the best way to think about music in the 2070's is to look at where music was in the 30's. 70 odd years ago pop music was a lot of ragtime early jazz. Then comes rockabilly and finally actual rock'n'roll. Look at early Johnny Cash and Elvis and how much more modern musicians have built upon those legacies.

I typically think of music in Shadowrun as being a lot like today's except for being louder, harder, and edgier. Kind of the way I think of the world of Shadowrun in general being louder, harder, and edgier.
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post Jun 25 2007, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE (TheMadDutchman)
I think the best way to think about music in the 2070's is to look at where music was in the 30's.  70 odd years ago pop music was a lot of ragtime early jazz.  Then comes rockabilly and finally actual rock'n'roll.  Look at early Johnny Cash and Elvis and how much more modern musicians have built upon those legacies. 

I typically think of music in Shadowrun as being a lot like today's except for being louder, harder, and edgier.  Kind of the way I think of the world of Shadowrun in general being louder, harder, and edgier.

...somehow the thought of Disco at the decibel level of a Concorde taking off is very, very frightening & I think I will have nightmares tonight of leisure suit clad trolls trying to shake their booty. :rotate:

On the topic of classical music enduring into the sixth world, yes it would still be around (remember the pic of the wigged out conductor in Shadowbeat?). Heck in RL even earlier music such as Renaissance and Plainchant has come into popularity over the last decades of the previous century.

The fact that Shadowbeat made mention of classical acoustic instruments (even if in passing) also would say that the genre is still very much alive.
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post Jun 25 2007, 01:39 AM
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Thrash Classical, Heavy Classical, and Death Classical.

…Hair Classical?

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post Jun 25 2007, 04:09 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
Thrash Classical, Heavy Classical, and Death Classical.

…Hair Classical?

~J

*coughs*

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post Jun 25 2007, 05:53 AM
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Rush?
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post Jun 25 2007, 01:37 PM
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Now, I'm going to have to play a discotech troll.

A velvet suit, a good pair of dancing shoes, and an Uzi1V; comin' at ya.

Night Fever; Night Fever!; (don't know anymore of the song)

Matter of fact: Night Fever is going to be his street name.
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post Jun 25 2007, 01:44 PM
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post Jun 25 2007, 04:20 PM
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I'd say you could take any musical style, stick "Trog" or "Elf" or whatever race in front of it, and have your own new style. Also, I'd say most of today's styles would still be valid, but they'd be considered "classic" or "old fart music". But it depends on your character. Most typical teens today might not have a clue about the Beatles, but there will still be some oddballs that love em.

As for current music trends in Shadowrun, I think there'd be a lot of angry protest music, along with a ton of mindless pop produced by machines with little to no human input. With the advent of cybersynths, there would probably be a lot more instrumentals and musical interludes, because you could probably do some incredible things with an instrument you control with your mind. Freebird, for example, would grow from the extended 15 minute version to the 45 minute one.

Just a few thoughts.

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post Jun 25 2007, 05:41 PM
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Thrash Classical, Heavy Classical, and Death Classical.

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...John Cage, Gustav Mahler, Richard Wagner.
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Watching RL music in my neck of the woods (and for that matter, pop culture in general), whatever happened in the last decade is very unfashionable, but the stuff from a decade before that is cool again. Anything older than that is either, "classic", forgotten, or small subculture FANatics only.
So in 206x, I would expect all the 205x stuff to be looked down on (Jet Black, the Shadows, Dark Angel, Shield Wall etc) but 204x stuff (Early Maria Mercurial, for example) to be back, while Concrete Dreams have hit the Beatles/Stones/Zep-style "classic" status
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It's a Cyberpunk theme (which Shadowrun draws influence from) but a lot of the music popular among the street crowd in my games is political rock - Rage Against the Machine is a good example of this.

Surrounded by so much meaningless garbage, many of the "indie" bands my hip street freaks like are trying to re-insert the message back into music - proving that just because you have a track machine and a hook does not good music make. It's gotta be driven, not just have rythym. Drownin' in the empty sounds! Yo! Yo! Yo!

*coughs*

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