Game violence, Will Fanpro get sued? Options

[Buzzed]

The GTA lawsuits.

This is a sad sad state of affairs, a prime example of how the lawsuit system is rediculous and should be controlled.

If, and I stress IF the parents win this lawsuit, what would be the fate of role playing games? I pretend I shoot something, I decide to shoot someone for real, now someone sues a company for my actions.

Dont worry, this lawsuit won't fly with the judge... I hope.

[Kagetenshi]

Given that the attempt to implicate id Software failed, I doubt we're at significant risk.

~J

[easytohate]

*shakes head*
lol
Do parents sue the corps in shadowrun after thier kid flips out after 1 too many violent sims?

[Tanka]

Next year's sourcebook! UCAS Cases!

[Fresno Bob]

Sure, they sue, but then the Corp just has them 'quieted', or something.

[nezumi]

Don't forget, the chances of an RPG even drawing attention in the first place is about equal to (Number of people who play given RPG) * ( (percentage of people who are stupid/psychotic enough to go on a killing spree) - (percentage of psychotic people who don't like to read or don't have enough friends to start an RPG) ) %. Video games will always be higher up on the list of people to sue than RPGs, they're more graphic and more dedicated to a single purpose.

[Bob the Ninja]

Meh. Console games are the nest EVIL-CORRUPTING-the YOUTH fad. We've seen comics, rock music, and D&D/RPGs take hits before. It'll pass and something elso will take a hit.

My guess is on fluffy bunnies.

[Lindt]

No, consoles ARE the evil that rots the world. Cause no one puts out really good PC games anymore. Look how long it too for Vice City to hit PC!

[Snow_Fox]

Goddess forbid that parents should actually take an interest in what they're kids do before they should up a Mchughes or something. The parents of the Columbine kids from the start have denied they did anything wrong by not keeping track of what their kids were doing and actually sued the police becasue the police didn't tell them their kids were showing an interest in weird stuff!

RPG's are pretty safe, even violent ones because it's all in your imagination. In a video game you all actually push a button and see the blood or what ever.

[Tanka]

Technicality: Violence does not spawn violence. Lack of understanding and not taking the time to find a better way does.

[Kagetenshi]

There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of enough violence.

~J

[Tanka]

True, but is it the best way? If in an example of school violence: Could the event have been prevented if the kids had, instead of firing shots, fired words back, or even talked to a Counselor? Most likely. Although, if they fired words back, there still might have been a shooting... (In the case of Columbine, for instance.)

[Kagetenshi]

I never stated anything about the desirability of the use of violence, but I like to be clear that in all circumstances, violence is an answer.
There are often better answers, especially since people often fail to apply said violence in a proper manner, or lack the ability to provide sufficient violence in a timely fashion.

~J

[Shadow]

If were going to talk about violence lets talk about the violence that spawns almost all these school shootings.

Let's talk about kids afraid to go to the bathroom because they'll get there head flushed in a used toilet.

Let's talk about the kids who get the crap kicked out of 'em every day at lunch 'cause they look different.

Let's talk about the girls who are abused physically and emotionally.

Let's talk about all these things before we talk about School shooting. Kids taking guns to school and blowing away some jocks is a direct response to the issues above. Solve that, and you wont have any more school shooting.

But wait, it is so much easier to blame the parents, or the kids, or Video Games, or movies, then it is to solve the actual problem.

[Kagetenshi]

*Applause*

~J

[Fortune]

Actually, let's talk about violence as it relates to Shadowrun, or this thread will soon be closed.

[Kagetenshi]

[Tanka]

Hurrah to Shadow. Absolutely correct. I semi-rescind my commentary and allow Shadow to be the speaker of obvious from now on. Or until we leave this thread. ;)

As for relating to games and violence... There is no relation unless the subject has some severe mental problems, in which case they've probably already been diagnosed and is (hopefully) getting the proper treatment/room.

I'm not saying crazy people should be locked up/treated, but I am saying those with problems that could make them think video games and real life are related need some serious checking in to.

And young children don't count.

[Fortune]

[Kagetenshi]

That's accurate.

So, how 'bout that Quake III? ;)
Connections between video games and violence: Halo makes me want to hurt people badly.

~J

[Vagabond]

Victims... aren't we all?

My answer to school shootings is this: let the teacher who are willing take an extensive gun use/safety course and then carry their own weapons. Kids will be less apt to open fire if half the facilty has a chance to return fire.

As for the lawsuit? I believe the US government should adapt a "loser pays" policy when it comes to civil lawsuits. That way you can sue whomever you want for whatever reason, but if you don't win you have to pay the other side's legal fees. I bet that will cut down these frivilous lawsuits down to nothing real quick. Too bad I'm not in charge... :)

[Kagetenshi]

The problem with that is that people like me would take the guns just to demonstrate that arming the teachers just doesn't work. It's like arming pilots; all it takes is one slip and you've just armed whoever they were armed against.

~J

[Crusher Bob]

So there the team was, bloody and battered, 3 bodies in the trunk of the war-wagen, and riding home from a fine nights work. Then some punk kids with a .22 randomly shoot at you?. The corp must really be scraping the bottom of the response team barrel to send this your way...

[Tanka]

I disagree with the "loser-pays-all" theory. It might sound good... However, you have to remember that sometimes, the court rules like they're a bunch of idiots. This tends to make up stupid rulings that the person who should've won now has to pay for.

[Fresno Bob]

If Video Games affected people, Japan would be a nation of murderous psychopaths.

I like saying that, although I know its not the issue here.