Bloodlust and "On The Run" Options

[Ikirouta]

Ah, I get it now. Yes, there definitely are room for "adult" oriented material in this genre like Marghos so well described. Besides his character description/background already had this "working girl" type written so adult themes seemed to be OK with him. Maybe it is different for male player's female character to get raped than for female player's female character facing the same fate.

But in any case I agree that there should be some sort of understanding between players and GM concerning that kind of stuff. Whether it is through vote or just by knowing each other long enough.

I know an event where an NPC orc raped a PC. Both were male. The tale tells that the player was almost crying (he was quite young at the time). Me, I quit the game some time before that happened so it's just a second hand story.

[Ravor]

Yeah, I make it quite clear that if they want me to run a cyberpunk world for them then they need to be able to deal with adult themes, including when it happens to them. So far I haven't had any problems with people not being able to deal with it, but then I only game with people I know and have screened for being mature.

[Critias]

I have no qualms whatsoever with there being "adult" material in games I'm in (whether as a player or as GM). Ask around, shit. The last big thing I ran involved all the players being randomly on the wrong block at the wrong time, as a local Mitsuhama security chief cordoned off the block -- completely at random -- with armored cars and prisoner transport vehicles (complete with a chopper overhead for additional shock/awe), gunned down everyone with rubber bullets, waded in with stun batons to clean up...

...and then proceeded to pick out anything and anyone that looked halfway fuckable and toss them into the prisoner transports. They were then carted them off to give to the local Yakuza boss (a distant relative) in exchange for an obscene amount of money. Then off they go to bunraku parlors (after a little cleaning up)

It was a hooker harvest, in other words, that the half dozen or so players just happened to be caught in the middle of. For no reason. Just wrong block at the wrong time.

I can handle adult themes. Hell, some players come to my games specifically for the grit it gets under their nails. It's fun to shoot really bad people square in the face, many would say more fun than just shooting random pay-earning security guards.

But there's a world of difference between the NPCs being horrible sadistic bastards, and one of the PCs deciding it would be fun to rape someone else sitting at the game table with them (so to speak). At best, it's the sort of disruptive bullshit that will lead to a group falling apart (I'd wager 99% of the people out there would rather a player character just cleanly kill another PC). At worst, it's a sign that someone's got some serious issues (particularly if they're so disassociated from the feelings of others that they think they'll be looked at the same by the other players afterwards).

So, yeah. Rape in the game world? It happens. The Sixth World is a shitty place sometimes. Rape at the game table? Fuck that. Time to find a new group.

[hyzmarca]

There is a difference between raping the character and raping the player through the character. The latter is what horror stories are made of but it only occurs when the PC rape is a violation of the player's boundaries. If it isn't a violation of the player's boundaries, then it is little different from any other sexual or pseudo-sexual RP, depending on how detailed it is and far it does.

And everyone has different boundaries that should be respected. Personally, I'd feel a little uncomfortable being love-trolled by a male GM in a face to face game (it does not matter in an internet game) if it were only a single sentence and more than a little uncomfortable if it were more descriptive. On the other hand, I'd happily RP a several-hour long thrust-by-thrust love-troll anal-rapping if the love-troll were played by a female player. But that's simply because I enjoy being sodomized by women, thus it isn't nearly as creepy when it is done roleplay.
It is the sexual aspect that I find uncomfortable, rather than the being raped aspect. I would be just as uncomfortable RPing a consensual sexual relationship with a male player's PC in a face-to-face game due to the difficulty separating the character from the player in a face-to-face setting.

[Rotbart van Dain...]

TMI indeed.

In my experience, the worst kind of conflicts did not escalate on the issue of sex and/or violence - but mindcontrol. It's called mindrape for a reason.

[Ikirouta]