 Eidetic Sense Memory & 3D Memory, Differences and uses |
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 Jul 8 2007, 10:27 AM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686  |
In the example, it says the drawer must be open for him to review the contents of it. Not that he had to have looked into the drawer.
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Jul 8 2007, 10:35 AM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Just the actual rule is more limiting.
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Jul 8 2007, 11:50 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 5-June 03 Member No.: 4,689 |
No, it doesn't. As long as we're dealing with RAW, those words appear nowhere in the description of the power. The only specification is that "[t]he adept may not interact [with] or disturb anything in the recalled scene". Thus, if a drawer was shut, the adept may not open it in the reviewed memory. (The word "review" is used.) Another few words that are used in the description of 3DM are "ultra-clear detail". These words are not used in the description either of ESM or EM. If that's not a powerful distinction, why are the sales of HDTVs going through the roof? |
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Jul 8 2007, 12:12 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Look, it was already pointed out:
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Jul 8 2007, 01:22 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 5-June 03 Member No.: 4,689 |
And yet to specify what was sensed is not synonymous with "perspective".
The concept of review carries with it the idea of going back over things gone over before -- to learn, not only to see again. It doesn't have anything in it at all of same perspective. |
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Jul 8 2007, 01:41 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 |
Sigh, t might help to re-clarify the power to review sensations, from which you may derive new perceptions.
Where sensation would be stimuli received by the body, and perception would be congition of the significance to that stimuli. |
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Jul 8 2007, 01:51 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 5-June 03 Member No.: 4,689 |
(? are you pointing out that perception and perspective are not the same thing? It's a level of misunderstanding I'd not considered.)
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Jul 8 2007, 02:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 11-June 05 Member No.: 7,441 |
Let's look at what it says:
1. It does not say anything about restricting your perspective. 2. It does say the adept may "explore it as if he was walking through the location for the first time." The implications of the italicized portion, to me, mandate the ability to change perspective. 3. Interestingly, if you accept the change of perspective thing, it may also allows you to see parts of an object in the scene you did not see the first time, provided you did sense other parts of the object. (If you look at the specific wording in 3, "review things he actually saw or sensed, even if only incidentally at the time." If you observe the emphasis as bolded, you may draw the conclusion that a partial observation of an object would allow a full observation of an object later, subject to the inability to interact with the scene. ie, if you only saw the front of an object, you could in 3DM move around to see the back, provided the back wasn't obstructed by something.) |
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