Astral Perception, When you Assume, it makes an... |
Astral Perception, When you Assume, it makes an... |
Jul 9 2007, 04:22 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 5-April 07 Member No.: 11,388 |
I assume from the description of astral movement that physical barriers on the Material plane have no effect on someone moving on the astral plane.
Is the same true of astral perception? Can a character astrally perceiving see auras through walls, or do walls act as they do on the material plane? |
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Jul 9 2007, 04:25 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
As explained in Street Magic, Astral Shadows of dead material block LoS as well.
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Jul 9 2007, 04:52 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,920 Joined: 31-December 06 Member No.: 10,502 |
Also for the mages don't forget that in SR4 wards are (relatively) cheap and availible. Businesses and people with higher lifestyles would reasonably have them.
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Jul 9 2007, 05:10 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 5-April 07 Member No.: 11,388 |
Thanks; I don't have access to Street Magic, so I appreciate your input.
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Jul 9 2007, 09:34 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
Normally transparent material is also opaque. So, while astrally perceiving, you can NOT see through glass. So you can't look through windows, and you can't use any sort of vision enhancement (as they rely on lenses=glass)
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Jul 9 2007, 09:36 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
In my games, however, I do allow you to make an Assessing Test (usually with a low threshold) to learn some information about auras that are behind an astral shadow.
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Jul 9 2007, 11:02 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
Glass is just an astral shadow. Street Magic p 114:
So I guess holding up a thin sheet of transparent glass completely hides you and protects you from all non-elemental spells? |
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Jul 9 2007, 11:08 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
..and thus breaks LoS.
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Jul 9 2007, 11:13 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
Godamit I hate Platonic magic as much as I hate Vancian magic. |
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Jul 9 2007, 11:15 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
Only if the caster is using astral perception. If they are just in normal vision then you're hosed. As to Cyber Eyes causing trouble for astral perception, remember that Astral Perception is related to Vision in exactly zero ways. It is a wholly new sense, so your sunglasses don't blind you if you're using Astral Perception... |
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Jul 9 2007, 11:27 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
Hey wait, that's right if I'm reading the quote in Street Magic correctly, not only does a car window block your astral perception, your own sunglasses would too!
Godamit I hate Platonic magic. |
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Jul 9 2007, 11:28 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
The exact wording of Street Magic is:
So it doesn't completely block vision, no, but it is still a good obstacle providing visual cover. |
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Jul 9 2007, 11:29 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
As you don't use your eye for astral perception, it doesn't.
But a mage-mask will... |
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Jul 9 2007, 11:32 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
Remind me what page the rules for those are on Rotbart?
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