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Jul 12 2007, 03:50 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,286 Joined: 24-May 05 From: A 10x10 room with an orc and a treasure chest Member No.: 7,409 |
I have no problems doing datasnatchs, or extractions, but for some reason I can't see myself doing anything longterm like that. Now if the job was to join project to find a spy I could see myself doing it, it all depends on how close I had to get to people. I just can't sell out someone I'm close to.
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Jul 12 2007, 03:51 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I know Bond did many, many un-spy-like things, but the idea that you would have to say that a dedicated spy, of all people, "even" did it is… I don't know what to say.
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Jul 12 2007, 03:56 AM
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Snakehandler ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,454 Joined: 28-April 06 From: London, England Member No.: 8,508 |
My latest character
Ate his siblings as a toddler continues to relish metahuman flesh killed a couple of children to get their commlink so he could play music chips mutilates women that won't give him what he wants by biting their ears off has elaborate plans to sexually assault another PC (which as I player I will make sure never come to fruition) and all that is just in his pre-game-start background material. |
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Jul 12 2007, 06:07 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,883 Joined: 16-December 06 Member No.: 10,386 |
Yeah, that's definitely good fodder for the (very often correct) theory describing sexual abuse as an act of dominance more than anything else. 20% of the male population is a pretty significant minority, but apparently not a large enough of one to gain popular support in most current western cultures, especially with the expanded role of women (who apparently have a lower incidence of pedophiliac tendencies) in determining social norms. And yeah, inmates seem to have a dodgey definition of pedophilia and homosexuality at best. To further support the dominance theory, a lot of these prisoners seem to feel that a homosexual encounter doesn't make you gay as long as you're the rapist rather than the victim. Old Churchill wasn't joking when he said history is written by the victors. :eek: |
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Jul 12 2007, 08:23 PM
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Man In The Machine ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
But we know Grack is just one sick sick puppy. I dont think I have been down near that level, but I have had an NPC that met his end in fairly spectacular fashion due to his transgressions. That Dweller on the Threshold is a real bitch sometimes. "...And all those poor poor children... you sick little fucker." |
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Jul 13 2007, 06:23 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,625 |
And what's abhorrent to me is this attitude in regards to people like undercover cops. You know, those guys who put their lives in more danger than your average cop for not great pay so they catch the big scumbags in an attempt to make the streets safer for the public. Or agents who risk their lives to infiltrate terrorist cells, drug rings or any other number of organisations which threaten public safety. |
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Jul 13 2007, 06:55 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,812 |
I remember a Millenium's End game once which was set in my home town. IRL I'm a prosecutor with the DPP (District Attorney's office equivilent, for Americans). The group got up to some pretty crazy and illegal stuff (especially crazy since in that game you play, effectively, company men who hire themselves out to clients for quiet ops). For a few games, I would come along and inform the group about what the maximum penalties were for all the offences they had commited in the previous game, and what they would be likely to see sentence-wise if they were convicted.
I don't recall a single game where the answer wasn't "life imprisonment". |
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Jul 13 2007, 08:17 AM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I can't seem to think of anything that hasn't been done by at least one of my characters ... if not in Shadowrun then some other RPG. :eek:
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Jul 13 2007, 04:15 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 |
The sickest character I have (and I mean this in a psychiatric sense) has a, I will use the word respect, for innocence. It not that he would not do something to toddlers but finds no challenge in that stops his actions.
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Jul 13 2007, 04:38 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 |
Were you the captain of a ship who wrecked it in an attempt to steal the cargo? Have you brought multiple lawsuits aginst a person or entity for the purposes of harrasment? Had carnal relations with livestock that was someone else's property? If so, my hat is off to you. |
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Jul 13 2007, 04:52 PM
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Midnight Toker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
QUOTE (Fortune @ Jul 13 2007, 03:17 AM) I can't seem to think of anything that hasn't been done by at least one of my characters ... if not in Shadowrun then some other RPG. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif) Did you ever wear a pregnant vampire's entrails as a belt while she was still alive? Do you have any involvement with a Tanamous-connected real leather goods factory? Have you ever summoned an SR4 Inhabitation Spirit into someone's fast food hamburger as a Hybrid Merge? |
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Jul 13 2007, 05:32 PM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
See, now we're getting into specifics, so I plead the Fifth.
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Jul 14 2007, 12:05 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 90 |
Among the worst...
-Willful endangering of innocents, opened fire with a shotgun in a crowded hospital hallway, I think some poor folks took some stray buckshot. -Character of German decent who tied up and threw his landlord (who coincidently was Jewish) into the Sound after the landlord reported him to LS and refused, under torture, to refund the rent payed in advance. He was nicknamed "The Nazi" for a while after that. |
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Jul 14 2007, 01:05 AM
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Midnight Toker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Your character rented from a Jew?! Eating babies and making leather clothing from their skin is one thing but renting from a Jew, that's just evil. :D
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Jul 15 2007, 02:52 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
What is SERE? |
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Jul 15 2007, 02:58 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape. It's the "not wigging out when you get lost behind enemy lines and possibly captured" skillset.
~J |
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Jul 15 2007, 02:59 AM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
You might have just beat me, Kage, but only 'cause I was giving a link. :P |
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Jul 15 2007, 03:03 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
Thanks for the info.
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Jul 15 2007, 10:17 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...time to see how good the PCs in RiS are at this considering where they are heading. :vegm: |
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Jul 21 2007, 04:14 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 7-March 07 From: Hapeville, GA Member No.: 11,175 |
Evil things my favorite character has done...
Specialized in wetwork Torture for the hell of it (The face left the room and was done with the questions, but she didn't say stop) Murdered a security guard's wife and framed the husband - just to tie up loose ends that the other runners didn't think were loose ends at all. Tried to literally crucify an ex-SO Murdered a stuffer-shack waitress because she took pictures Recorded 'killer's-eyes-view' snuff videos of all her kills in thermographic because it was 'the most beautiful artform I've ever experienced' Threatened another runner with death should he continue with his stupidity Worked with the Mafia - friends with a lt. of the Gianelli family Retreived a lost product for Ares... that product happened to be a six year old girl who had been 'kidnapped/rescued' by her parents. Executed a good friend and her commanding officer on company orders (while working for Firewatch) Murdered her own helpless, hospitalized father on company orders (while working for Firewatch) Seriously considered (but for her own reasons did not take) a contract from a rival team to asassinate her own teammembers as vengeance for a run she herself orchestrated - unbeknownst to the rival team. Manufactured evidence (while working for Firewatch) False testimony (while working for Firewatch) Shot a man in the throat for making a lewd, sexist remark Chose to execute two unconscious truck drivers who didn't even see who had knocked them out to begin with - just to maintain the mystique of a vanishing convoy without a trace... fed their bodies to ghouls. Wanted to kill a Johnson and a fixer, but instead had to 'settle' for allying with a rival fixer Supplied medical supplies and weapons to two rival gangs - causing a gang war to go up a few notches Well... she's done more evil things, but those are the high points. She's progressively becoming less evil though, now having earned the monicker of 'recovering sociopath' |
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Jul 21 2007, 05:49 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 16-July 07 Member No.: 12,274 |
I've done all the basic "shadowrunny" bad deeds (Killing, dealing, smuggling, organlegging, Petty and Grand Theft, etc.), but my most memorable... and probably most despicable... was detonating a small nuke off the coast of Vancouver, BC. Ah, the good days of 2e. My most advanced character too... I should see about bringing him back!
I didn't get caught, but the Johnson decided not to pay, so I had to cover my tracks... up a fair chunk of the corp food chain, too >.< I believe the warrant is still out for my "Retrieval" being dead or alive (preferablly dead). I mean, I don't know what the big deal was. It was only a small one. ... 14...15 Megatons, tops. |
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Jul 21 2007, 06:27 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...14 - 15 megatonnes? Small?
That's a bleedin city killer. And this guy's still alive? Makes KK's little episode of blowing up the Bremerton ferry seem like small potatoes and she's been hiding out for nearly the last year. |
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Jul 21 2007, 06:41 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 16-July 07 Member No.: 12,274 |
Like I said. Small.
The original pay was for hunting rival fishing ships and sabotaging and/or sinking them. I made some calls, and after two months of "Hunt for Red October" with the team, my "toy" arrived. How was I supposed to know I wasn't going to get extra cash for sabotage-in-bulk? 4 ships at once was too much to pass up. And the poor, poor ecosystem. Well, I'm a beef guy anyway. Also, this was back in 2052, IIRC. So I've kept that dude on the move for the past 18 years lol |
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Jul 21 2007, 08:05 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 475 Joined: 17-June 02 From: Concord University, Athens, WV Member No.: 2,880 |
All the ones I've played in online games tend to be good guys. Or at least, people just trying to get by without being too terrible.
But Rookwood, the physmage (Adversary shaman) I play in an face-to-face game, tends to be the exception there. His team was hired to steal a load of weapons from a train. They were in the rear cars of what was otherwise a passenger train. He eventually concluded that the simplest way to get them off the train was to derail it. So he and the street sam, Vebibo, set charges on the train tracks. Then they decided to make sure the timing was perfect, so they called another member of the team he happened to not like (and whose player didn't make it to the game) and told him to be aboard a certain train at a certain time, and call them when it reached a predetermined point. We got the player to go along with it by calling him at home and telling him only what we told the character. He agreed on that basis. The next day it was revealed to him that he was nearly killed in the derailing. The wreck killed about 200 people. The only ones to survive were Petrio (the one they called) and an incredibly lucky small child. Rookwood sold the child to one of his contacts (a sociopathic street doc/mage), either for medical experiments, to be raised as a slave, or for senseless torture. He never bothered to ask. Once the Johnson's goons got everything loaded up in the trucks, Rookwood set phase two of his plan into motion by killing one of the goons. That was the signal for the troll and street sam to kill the others. Then they took the load back to the meeting place, and one went in invisibly and killed the Mr J, who they had a long history of hatred with. Afterwards Rookwood and the troll set about killing off the J's entire family. ...then there was the time he knocked out some innocent bystander who ran across the team on a stakeout. Good precation, sure, and better than killing her. Until he also sold her to the same contact. He was well aware that her fate would be constant torture. During a massive raid on their base of operations, Rookwood single-handedly took out the other side's rigger and about two dozen ganger goons he had along. The rigger died because he was trapped in his own command vehicle with his drones disabled, and was gradually frightened into suicide (he focused entirely on the rigger after the rigger's opening rocket salvo nearly injured him - hooray for that Vindictive flaw). The gangers were knocked out via stunball. Rookwood later ordered their execution with the aid of some of the team's own minions. He once stabbed his own teammate just to prove a point. The guy lived, so Rookwood took the bloody knife and sold the blood to their Mr J as a material link. He also was trained as a blood mage (but left the circle before being truly initiated - he doesn't have the Sacrifice metamagic or geas), and was known to kill people and use their blood in various magical rituals, such as setting up his shamanic lodge. Oh, almost forgot. Most recently, when asked to meet a new team member (young elf female with no real combat ability), he decided she was irritating. So he set their meeting place in an area known to be crime-ridden and a lurking area for rapists and murderers. After the meeting, he left her behind there, and she didn't survive the trip back. That's all I can think of for now, but there's probably more. He's an evil bastard. |
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Jul 21 2007, 06:42 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...hmmm, that almost nominates him for the Falling Bovine Award.
I'm surprised any other PCs even hang around with this guy considering the rep he would have. On the other hand, he would make a wonderfully nefarious NPC. |
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