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 Jul 11 2007, 08:48 PM
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Free Spirit  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920  |
Anybody know if a free ally spirit's Attributes are supposed to increase when its Force increases or does it need to buy them up seperately?
I do not think it is ever stated anywhere, but what do people think? |
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Jul 12 2007, 02:54 AM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
I believe its only its mental atts that increase with force. Could be wrong though.
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Jul 12 2007, 03:00 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...aww geez, and here' I've been cutting out and saving all my UPC symbols for the last three years. |
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Jul 12 2007, 03:01 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,286 Joined: 24-May 05 From: A 10x10 room with an orc and a treasure chest Member No.: 7,409 |
I've read the rules a few times since you brought up this question. I couldn't find anything about how free ally spirits advance. So I'm going to declare from henceforth that free ally spirits advance as other free spirits.
So it is written and so shall it be. |
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Jul 12 2007, 04:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 28-November 04 Member No.: 6,852 |
Is this before or after the Dikote? :grinbig:
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Jul 12 2007, 04:50 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Does it matter? I always wondered about Ally spirit advancement because their attributes are not related to Force. Not knowing, I've always avoided using an Ally as a Free spirit. Recently it was discovered an edge a free ally could provide that no other spirit is capable of providing. The Aid Spell power in connection with Health spells. Force is used for the test, so the binding PC has a motive to increase the Ally's Force, but will it give a huge, side benefit of raising Attributes? |
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Jul 12 2007, 10:37 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Maybe Free Ally Spirits don't advance in attributes?
~J |
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Jul 12 2007, 04:09 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
I'm going to assume that once it becomes Free it follows the Free Spirit rules.
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Jul 12 2007, 04:45 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
And in your reasoning that means what concerning Attributes? |
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Jul 12 2007, 05:29 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
That they follow the same rules that all other Free Spirits follow for attribute advancement. Once they become Free, they're no longer Allies in the strictest sense. So, attribute advancement according to Force.
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Jul 12 2007, 05:41 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
This sort of makes sense to me, only because to do otherwise would be exceedingly expensive. For example, even giving them the break of raising Attributes according to the Ritual of change costs as much as raising Spirit Energy. It also makes sense in that base Physical Attributes are set equal to Force. |
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Jul 13 2007, 03:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 |
This seems rapped up but too add my 2 bits, I had the free ally spirit keep its enhance physical attributes till its force meant that its manifest form was equal or greater than its previous attributes.
Just made for an more blended transition for pre freedom to fully free stats and powers. |
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Jul 13 2007, 04:44 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Probably what I'd do as well, if it came up. |
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Jul 13 2007, 07:56 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
What enhanced Physical Attributes? Ones that the summoner paid extra to raise? If so, I guess I agree. In my experience, they get left at Force, so this may be why I wonder.
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Aug 12 2007, 03:03 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
I am also contemplating relating Attributes to Force (creating a modifier), then having advancement be based on force modified by the relation to Force at the time the ally spirit became free. Example: Force 5 Ally B 5 Q 5 S 5 C 4 I 6 W 6 B=F Q=F S=F C=F-1 I=F+1 W=F+1 It in effect gets unique stats (as each ally could be unique within the class of ally spirits) similar to other spirit types. Such as a Spirit of Man having B=F+1, Q=F+2, S=F-2, C=F, I=F, W=F.
Maybe. It could just be a major perquisite that most spirits attributes are linked to their Force. |
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