 commlink availability, am i missing somthing? |
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 Jul 12 2007, 07:00 PM
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Running, running, running  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769  |
as the subtitle goes, am i missing something for the commlinks availability? i dont see them on the chart, no reference to them in the availability section im confused.
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Jul 12 2007, 07:03 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Like computers today, anyone can buy any type of off-the-shelf commlink.
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Jul 12 2007, 07:06 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
hm, so the only way to get anything better than (roughly) 3/4 i think it was, is to build it yourself?
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Jul 12 2007, 07:06 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
availability for hardware upgrades are found on page 240.
availability for software is on page 228. the commlinks themselves have no availability rating (that is, they are perfectly legal items that are easily obtainable). likewise for the stock operating systems. |
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Jul 12 2007, 07:08 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
ah, yes i forgot about those... and i remember somewhere a long time ago that it's cheaper to buy the lowest comm and then upgrading it...
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Jul 12 2007, 07:11 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
that depends on how you interpret things. there are those who insist that you must upgrade an existing commlink. i'm not sure where they pull this from, exactly, that's just what they've decided. there's nothing that says you can't just buy a response, firewall, system, and firewall all at rating 6 and stick them all together to make a commlink. certainly, it might not have all the extras of the off-the-shelf commlinks (which, iirc, includes a camera, and has the advantage of looking inconspicuous) |
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Jul 12 2007, 07:12 PM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
Yeah this is true as you buy the comm stuff at the level you want it at you don't need to buy each level to go to the next one.
All my characters have bought the cheap one and then did the upgrade so all stats are 6's and 5's the price works out to 11,050 |
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Jul 12 2007, 08:40 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,534 Joined: 31-December 06 Member No.: 10,502 |
While you do need a case/power supply camera/fibre hookups and all that I'd probably just toss that in with the cost of the other items. The reason to get a different comlink and gut it is so that it looks like you've got a commonly availible comlink to any passers by.
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Jul 12 2007, 09:37 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
and another non avail. related commlink question, if i do it implanted 2000+ commlink 1+ upgrade, or 2000+commlink 1+ 2000 (for whatever re-surgery is needed)+ upgrades, ya think?
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Jul 12 2007, 09:45 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
If you upgrade it after it's inside you'll have to pay for the surgery.
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Jul 12 2007, 09:55 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
guess it's time to check in with prospective GM then... see how he'd like to handle it
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Jul 13 2007, 12:21 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Well personally I usually assume that when you custom order a commlink you still get all of the gizmos, and that there are enough custom cases floating around that you don't ahve to worry about buying an off the self commlink in order to avoid getting odd looks. (Plus I figure that you've got to be able to order a replacement case without the guts in case yours gets cracked or something.)
As for implanted commlinks, well personally I assume that they are implanted in such a way that you don't need actual surgery everytime something goes wrong with it, but that's just me. |
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Jul 13 2007, 12:26 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
My assumption is that the reason for implantation, at least in most runners, is concealability, which means it would be harder to access. |
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Jul 13 2007, 05:51 AM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
Implanted cost the same as what you pay for the commlink + the 2,000. Like wise you buy a alpha grade internal commlink it is 4,000 and yes you double the commlinks cost as well. In this case commlink is 11,050 + 2,000 Alpha is 22,100 + 4,000 Beta is 44,200 + 8,000 Delta is 110,500 + 20,000 Any other questions? |
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Jul 13 2007, 06:13 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
That's not necessarily the case. Plenty of people could have implanted commlinks, just so they never have to worry about losing them. Also, a concealed commlink doesn't need to be any harder to access than a standard implanted one; it could just have a better synthskin flap covering it. Finally, there aren't any rules for concealing cyberware, short of going alpha or better. If you want a concealed implanted commlink, you represent that by buying a higher grade of implant. |
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Jul 13 2007, 02:28 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
That's certainly one way to look at it.
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Jul 13 2007, 03:17 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Are you positive of this? I assumed it was 2000 for the commlink-head-port, which scaled essence and cost for various grades, but that you didn't get a delta grade commlink. In other words, I don't think the cost of the link changes with grade. Can we get book/errata/FAQ quotes one way or the other? |
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Jul 13 2007, 03:48 PM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Although it isn't quite the same, you do need to buy whatever equipment you're planning on shoving into a cyberarm at the same grade as the arm, so in theory you could have a deta-grade stat uplink so I think it fits.
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Jul 13 2007, 04:38 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
I agree that that's true for cyberarm accessories, but not necessarily for everything. If I want to put a tuna fish sandwich into a delta grade smuggling compartent in a delta grade arm, I do not need a delta grade sandwich. I am saying that the internal comlink is more like this. You get a commlink port installed in your head, and you connect whatever you want to it. But just to be clear, I'm not insisting that I'm correct or that you're wrong (and I'm not implying that you are either), it was just the way I saw it and I'm hoping to get it cleared up. |
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Jul 13 2007, 06:22 PM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
According to Rob Boyle this is the way it is I asked in an e-mail once. |
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