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post Jul 27 2007, 04:38 PM
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I think you must have missed the part where Radar is subject to Jamming. Ultrasound is not.

Ultrasound is, in fact... the jammer is just called 'White Noise Generator'.
And you can't install ECCM, like you can, against jamming...

Heh. I was just going to answer with

Looooooooooooooud Nooooooooiiiiises!
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post Jul 27 2007, 04:46 PM
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Okay, do the symbionts seem...weird to anyone else? I mean Glow is awesome for the unawakened, but still, they can start eating you. Ick.
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post Jul 27 2007, 04:47 PM
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Can you soak 18S?
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post Jul 27 2007, 05:33 PM
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Any idea when I can pick this up in a store? I don't like buying PDFs, personally.
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post Jul 27 2007, 05:43 PM
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Oh, and BTW - what happened to the Tactical Computer? The Math SPU is still with us, too... a mathematical SPU in a world where the average shoe has enough processing power to search for primes...
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post Jul 27 2007, 05:44 PM
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...just looked over the preview PDF

Space exploration?

Cyberzombies are back (yay!)

Cool ware for my "decker" Violet

The only thing that is missing is Chemtech, unless that is going into the long awaited Arsenal instead.

...damn, sometimes not having a commlink...er plastic is a pain. Can you get the PDF at your FLGS? I really really want.
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post Jul 27 2007, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (JonathanC)
Any idea when I can pick this up in a store? I don't like buying PDFs, personally.

I belive it's getting released at Gen-Con... As for when it will make it's way to your FLGS *shrugs* that depends on the distributor... RPG's are a little too small a market to have handy thinks like worldwide release dates.
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post Jul 27 2007, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE (JonathanC @ Jul 27 2007, 05:33 PM)
Any idea when I can pick this up in a store? I don't like buying PDFs, personally.

The hardcopy of Augmentation is currently at the printers. Our goal, barring intervention by the fates, is releasing Augmentation at GenCon, and it should start making its way out through the distribution network at around the same time.

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Oh, and BTW - what happened to the Tactical Computer?

Tactical Computers will be reintroduced in SR4 in Unwired.

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The only thing that is missing is Chemtech, unless that is going into the long awaited Arsenal instead.

That is correct.
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post Jul 27 2007, 06:24 PM
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Oh, and BTW - what happened to the Tactical Computer?

Tactical Computers will be reintroduced in SR4 in Unwired.

Oh. Will Arsenal feature Implants, too?
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post Jul 27 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (Synner)
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All cases I've stumbled across so far have them adding multipliers together before applying them.  So three 10% modifier would be a 30% modifier rather than a 10% of 10% of 10% modifier.  So that 0.50 implant with a 20% and 10% discount would have a 30% discount, meaning it would be 0.35 instead of 0.36.

That is correct.

Sounds like good FAQ bait.
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post Jul 27 2007, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Jul 27 2007, 06:24 PM)
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Oh, and BTW - what happened to the Tactical Computer?

Tactical Computers will be reintroduced in SR4 in Unwired.

Oh. Will Arsenal feature Implants, too?

I believe your confusion comes from (erroneously) assuming that an SR4 tactical computer will be anything other than a miltech commlink (implanted or not) with a specialized tactical software suite.

Arsenal will contain guns, vehicles, drones, chemtech, explosives, drugs, hazardous environment gear and miscellaneous runner gear (and yes, some may even have implanted variants or modular limb plug-ins).
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post Jul 27 2007, 06:32 PM
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Of course, such assumption might have been fueled by the Math SPU. :P
It would, at least, need an additional sim module to feed subconcious information to the user.

Implant versions of external gear sound nice, though... external versions of the truely autonomous medkits like the Guardian Angel and subsequently, implant variants, perhaps?
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post Jul 27 2007, 07:47 PM
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I don't know if we are supposed to be able to print out Augmentation from the PDF before it comes out or not, but if it's not a no-no does anyone know how much Office Depot or Kinko's or some other place charges for it? I would imagine a fairly hefty price tag that will make me wait till the paper copy. Which by the way, do we have a definate date for now that the PDF has made it's way into our grubby little hands?

Chris

EDIT: Looks like I should read all the posts. In the printers, hopefully out around Gen Con. Got it.
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post Jul 27 2007, 08:04 PM
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Figure $0.07 per page for copies ($0.14 double sided so no advantague) 176 pages + Front & Back cover. That's on a basic black and white laser. If you want the covers done in color like $0.99.

I printed my own on my home color laser printer. I wish I had set it to greyscale I didn' think to and it used a surprising ammount of magenta for some reason...

I had it spiral bound and it ran $2.99 at OMax. Avoid the comb binding if you want to be able to open the book all the way and have it lay flat, or flip it all the way around.
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post Jul 27 2007, 08:07 PM
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I don't know if we are supposed to be able to print out Augmentation from the PDF before it comes out or not, but if it's not a no-no does anyone know how much Office Depot or Kinko's or some other place charges for it?

Why wouldn't you be able to print it? It's easily a fair-use of the product. And if the original owner didn't want you to for some reason, I'm pretty sure Acrobat has an option to disable printing in its documents.
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post Jul 27 2007, 08:09 PM
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I don't know if we are supposed to be able to print out Augmentation from the PDF before it comes out or not, but if it's not a no-no does anyone know how much Office Depot or Kinko's or some other place charges for it?

Why wouldn't you be able to print it? It's easily a fair-use of the product. And if the original owner didn't want you to for some reason, I'm pretty sure Acrobat has an option to disable printing in its documents.

And yet, if you buy the hard copy you're not allowed to scan it into a pdf.
Or so I've been told.
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post Jul 27 2007, 08:11 PM
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At kinkos they gave me some trouble about printing the main book until they saw the "permission to photocopy" on the character sheet. So you may have some issue, or not, depending on who you deal with.

But it isn't actually illegal, I'm sure.
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post Jul 27 2007, 08:20 PM
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And yet, if you buy the hard copy you're not allowed to scan it into a pdf.
Or so I've been told.

Sure you are. What you're not allowed to do is distribute it. Making copies for yourself in whatever medium you like is perfectly acceptable no matter what anyone tries to tell you. That's why DRMs and whatnot get so much grief; they prevent people from using the product fairly.
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post Jul 27 2007, 08:52 PM
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Gah, now the difficult question becomes, buy it now in PDF for 25$ and make my own spiral book for like 40$ or wait about 3 weeks and buy one for 35+tax.....


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post Jul 27 2007, 09:01 PM
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Being able to lay the book flat is a bonus to me...i'll be opting to buy the cheaper PDF and pay the printing costs...
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post Jul 27 2007, 09:23 PM
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Gah, now the difficult question becomes, buy it now in PDF for 25$ and make my own spiral book for like 40$ or wait about 3 weeks and buy one for 35+tax.....


Chris

You forgot the best choice:
Go and get a good laser printer for $300 to $600 and print it yourself then pay only for the spiral binding. The Color Laser I have was $1k when I got it but it's equivalent today is like $600, and there are nice options in Monochrome for ~$300...
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post Jul 27 2007, 09:41 PM
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BTW... Audio Enhancement (BBB p. 333, cyberware & p. 324, equipment) gives the user not only extra dice, but the ability to hear the higher and lower frequencies out of the normal hearing spectrum. Is the only raison d'être for Increased Sensitivity (Augmention p. 37, cyberware) that it's 500¥ cheaper than the first level of Audio Enhancement?

EDIT: Clarification
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post Jul 27 2007, 09:58 PM
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Note it has a very significant downside compared to cyber versions. It's not "adjustable", it cannot be turned on or off, dampened or heightened - it leaves you vulnerable (gamemaster's discretion as usual) to loud noises, subsonic noise, etc.
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post Jul 27 2007, 10:09 PM
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Errr, not the Bioware - the cyberware from main book that is based on the equipment.
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post Jul 27 2007, 10:46 PM
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My bad. Yes, Increased Sensitivity allows for part of the functionality of Audio Enhancement (it does not grant dice) for a lower cost.
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