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 Jul 27 2007, 01:33 AM
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Prime Runner  Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51  |
If the print version of a Catalyst product includes an index, the PDF version includes it as well. This particular book does not have an index because it had an incredibly short time period in layout, and we simply didn't have time to turn around final layout files to our indexer. |
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Jul 27 2007, 01:56 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
$54?! And $25 for teh PDF? Gadzooks! I can only hope that this is in Canadian money, or Australian, or some other Moon-like measurement, rather than my beloved CAS Dollars. ... American, I meant. ... Yeah, American. ... ... ... *cough* |
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Jul 27 2007, 02:06 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 |
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!11!!ONE!!1!!
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Jul 27 2007, 02:11 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
$25 for the PDF, $54.99 gets you both the book [regularly $34.99] and the PDF [regularly $25]. Same pricing scheme as previous Shadowrun books. BTW: 25.00 CAD = 23.7306 USD Welcome to modern exchange rates. ;) |
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Jul 27 2007, 02:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
And choirs of modified angels sang. Adam, you name the truck stop and the brand of lubricant you prefer.
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Jul 27 2007, 02:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
The Radar Sensor opens a whole new world of use for APDS shotgun slugs.
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Jul 27 2007, 02:47 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
Yeah. Kind of sucks that it completely pushes Ultrasound off the map, though. There's no reason to use it except for synergy with other devices that use it (like Motion Sensors), but that's a pretty sad justification for it. Radar blows it off the map.
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Jul 27 2007, 02:56 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Ultrasound is still relatively more stealthy (and not quite obsolete) because of its passive mode.
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Jul 27 2007, 03:12 AM
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CosaNostra Deliverator Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 346 Joined: 29-January 05 From: Philadelphia, PA Member No.: 7,034 |
I'll second this. All the cyberlimb stuff looks great. I'm tempted to run out and have my character get a pair right now. |
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Jul 27 2007, 03:37 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 5-April 07 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 11,383 |
check the exchange lately. canada is almost on par with america. won't be long till we're on top. :P |
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Jul 27 2007, 03:42 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 29-June 07 Member No.: 12,085 |
I can't justify buying the PDF and the download. What I'd like is to have a subscription to everything 4th edition from now till forever, charge me for the pre-order print and allow me to download the PDF. Columbia games did that for a long time. You basically subscribed to everthing they put out and got access to the PDFs. Well, ima wait. Cover is not up to Shadowrun usual standards, IMHO. Your interior contributing artists have come up with some amazing stuff tho, Mumah's junk is hot. Don't mean to be a dick, don't mean to flame a soul, just my take on it. |
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Jul 27 2007, 03:48 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 23-July 07 Member No.: 12,339 |
Revitalization............what happens when you use Revitalization to heal essence damage done by other gene treatments?
does Revitalization undo the other treatments and replace essence......or do you get the essence back and still keep the effects of whatever gene tretments you had? is it to early for questions? |
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Jul 27 2007, 03:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
Biocompatability is the new Most Popular positive quality. Ten percent off Essence cost of the implant technology of your choice, for a mere 10 bp. Wow. :cyber:
Also adapsin, a genetech on pg. 90 that reduces the by 10% all future cybertech essence loss. 0.2 Essence, 30k. Wow. I'm just playing More Human Than Human on repeat. :cyber: |
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Jul 27 2007, 03:57 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
What I saw from the preview has whetted my appetite. I hope the scheduled release of (end of?) August stays on track.
Adam, hope you get over your illness soon. You're doing a bang-up job. :applause: |
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Jul 27 2007, 03:59 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
I'm assuming you mean "the PDF and the print."
We believe that PDF products have enough added utility [searchability, bookmarks, hyperlinks, portability] that giving them away for free with print purchase simply isn't smart business. Some sort of subscription plan isn't out of the question, though. I took a look at the Columbia Games site and could only find information about subscribing to several of their Hârn series of publications -- could you give me a link or a summary of how their subscription program works? |
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Jul 27 2007, 04:09 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
It's little more than a "you can have beta-grade implants at character creation, but instead of the normal cost for beta implants, you have to pay a flat 50,000Â¥ fee and can only apply it to one type of implant [cyberware or bioware], not both." Nice, but only for characters investing quite a bit of nuyen in implants. Not a bad investment for the longhaul for heavily cybered characters, but it's not a must-have quality. Especially for anyone who only wants a handful of implants. Basically comes down to "do I want to waste 10 BP at character creation for a 'I hope I get access to lots of implants after the game begins' or just using those points for something else and swallowing the nuyen cost for high-grade implants if and when they become available" quality. I think even for heavily augmented characters, I'd rather use the BPs elsewhere. Course I have no plans on creating a walking cybermenace either, and in those cases I'd definitely get it just so I could squeeze the last few points out. Great for campaigns for "prime runners" where you get something ridiculous like 1,000,000Â¥ and 200 Karma after character creation. |
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Jul 27 2007, 04:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 519 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Queensland Member No.: 3,180 |
Not at all, it's been almost 4 hours since the digital book release. :) Welcome to the information age. Anyone recall SR in the last millennium? Overseas shipping, pre-www, snail mail. The basic unit of time was the month rather than minute. I still know people who do SR that way. |
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Jul 27 2007, 05:23 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 18-March 06 From: Goettingen & Brunswick (AGS) Member No.: 8,388 |
Some never will... ;) But at least until now it seems like the masses are quite happy... you must have found "the right touch"... 8) *bows.slightly*, Nyx |
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Jul 27 2007, 06:13 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
With Emergence and Augmentation out and no sign of a new German SR licensee I'm seriously considering buying ebooks for the first time... BTW: US-$ 25.00 = EUR 18.21 |
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Jul 27 2007, 06:16 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Yes! Downloading now!
EDIT: "Redlining..." wow! EDIT2: Customised cyberlimbs. Bulk modification. More than I hoped for! You can tell which section I went to first, can't you? :D |
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Jul 27 2007, 07:38 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
One thing I'll note is that while Customized limbs allow you to increase your basic cyberlimb Atts at an additional cost, the Bulk modification is only available for obvious cyberlimbs (we just thought it was more cyberpunk that way).
As for genetech Revitalization (I see someone is skipping ahead to the new stuff): a couple of things to keep in mind is that strictly speaking geneware treatments aren't implants and (in case your GM allows it anyhow) the treatment only works if you first remove the implant that caused the Essence loss (meaning in this instance getting corrective genetherapy to cancel the previous treatment first). |
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Jul 27 2007, 07:39 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
Pfft! Synthetic limbs suck anyway. Obvious(ly cool) or bust!
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Jul 27 2007, 07:47 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 29-June 07 Member No.: 12,085 |
Well, it's now here: http://www.columbiagames.com/cgi-bin/query...an-waritems.txt They've changed their system to a voting one I see, calling it Gameplan. I haven't been loyal to their games for a couple years, so I'm way outside the loop. The way it worked was: when they came out with a new product, you were issued an email, notifying you of when the latest product would come available, and if you were subscribed, on what date you'd be charged. Their strategey behind this was to more accurately gauge initial printing quantities, and as a spiff for pre-ordering and this level of commitment to their product, you could recieve the PDF. It was for Harn and Harnmaster products. I believe that the only way you could get their PDF's was by this manner. It always seemed to me that the reason they offered the PDF was because they kept your pre-order money for quite some time: like a couple months, and that was used to satiate you till you recieved the hardcopy. This wouldn't be valuable to a company that could accurately forecast first unit sales, obviously. They're a much smaller company, so really, their business model would be far different from yours anyway. I guess I do see your point regarding increased searchability and so forth, and that probably is more defined for users with laptops. I unfortunately do not have one, so maybe that has another factor in wincing at the price of both. Obviously, the Augmentation PDF has a defined value as here I am, complaining about wanting it! :love: I'm also not the type to pull it off of a newsgroups service, to me as a graphic artist and freelance writer, that is plain theft. Anyway, kudos with your new product release and I'll sadly wait for it's release in print. And yes I did mean "PDF and PRINT." I apologize, thanks for blocking my tard-fu. |
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Jul 27 2007, 10:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando Member No.: 815 |
Holy crap-face! Type O System is wicked. Cyber adepts everywhere are going to be sweating the points for this one.
And Move by Wire...wow. Just wow. They actually made this sicker. |
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Jul 27 2007, 10:30 AM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Cellular Repair is fun - You can get back Essence sucked by a vampire... but Revitalization... evil stuff.
Now... telll me - where's the Guardian Angel implant? Or the cheaper variant? |
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