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Jul 22 2007, 01:28 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
So, with Augmentation finally coming out (hopefully) next week, Arsenal won't be long after that (/me prays Oh please, oh please oh please!).
Personally, I can't wait to see all the old weapons/vehicles back from the SR3 Cannon Companions, or their new SR4 versions. One thing I really do hope that comes out and something I've been looking forward to ever since looking at multiple SR3 artwork, is a flying car. I was disappointed when there were no such vehicle in any of the books. Maybe with a little rule bending with the Rigger 3 book one could be made, but being the owner of the SR world's only flying car is as obvious as being the owner of a Mobile suit. Another item I'd like to see are human-like drones, sorta like Avatars, or The Terminator. They look (meta)human, they act like it too, or at least like they've got a little cyber. But are all metal. Perfect for all those Parapalegic Dwarf runners out there who prefer to stay hidden, but be active in the world. Hmm...they could maybe even give those new AI's in the Matrix a way to move around the physical world. |
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Jul 22 2007, 01:59 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
rules for modifying vehicles, inlcuding sensor ratings.
also, attached to that, a good number of basic vehicle designs that can be modified readily. the other main thing i'd be interested in is actually to see something like the similar models mechanic from one of the old rigger books (i think), not just for vehicles/drones but also for the various guns and so forth. just makes things that much nicer =P also, if this isn't covered in augmentation, lots of new chemicals (toxins and drugs both). the current selection seems rather limited. |
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Jul 22 2007, 02:12 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
I'd love some simple but effective rules for vehicle design.
Prices for street drugs would be nice too. |
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Jul 22 2007, 02:19 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 5-April 07 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 11,383 |
I would kinda like all the vehicles and drones to be in their own rigger book. I would like weapons, weapon creation and customization rules, expanded unarmed combat rules and new electronics. I think that a really comprehensive vehicle book with optional rules would be better by itself.
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Jul 22 2007, 02:22 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
rigger books are the harbingers of a new edition =P
i'll settle for half a book on rigger stuff early on in the edition, thanks ;) (alternately, i could also put it like this: there is no rigger book announced. not even a solid rumour of one, or a subtle hint that such a thing might ever even exist. either they're planning on putting it into arsenal, or they don't appear to have it planned ever. once again, i'll settle for arsenal). |
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Jul 22 2007, 04:16 AM
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
hell, right now a rigger is a hacker that specialize in controlling hardware.
so the rules for riggers will probably be split between arsenal (for the hardware, as in vehicles and weapons) and unwired (electronic warfare and similar). to me thats the good side of SR4 as sr2 and 3 had the problems of near separate worlds of riggers, deckers and the rest. hell, if you tried to use the full content of the rigger books, the game risked taking on a paramilitary feel rather then some urban criminals with a modified get-away vehicle. rigger3 especially, with its ships and naval warfare coverage, gave this feel. but jaid's post makes me wonder, will unwired be the new harbringer of a new edition? |
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Jul 22 2007, 05:06 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
Not for at least another 3 years. :D
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Jul 22 2007, 05:39 AM
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
we can only hope...
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Jul 22 2007, 05:51 AM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
Didn't someone IE TPTB say something like December or something for Arsenal? I know Unwired is like January or February or at least that was the last date I heard.
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Jul 22 2007, 06:15 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
IIRC it was already stated that there'll be no vehicle creation rules.
But there'll be a vehicle modification system. |
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Jul 22 2007, 07:08 AM
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
Lets just hope that those rules include numbers for stripping down a frame to near bare metal...
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Jul 22 2007, 09:30 AM
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
My wishlist for Arsenal? August 2007. ;) But aside from that - tanks. I want to see some 2070 military vehicles. |
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Jul 22 2007, 01:21 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
I'd love a book all about riggers, but since one isn't scheduled to come out any time soon I want vehicle support in Arsenal to bring riggers closer to the versatility they had in previous editions.
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Jul 22 2007, 02:25 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
A VTOL car would be great, probably priced somewhat north of a eurocar westwind sportscar. Ever since I was a kid, I was promised a flying car by the year 2000, so we need one in SR to make up for it!
Here's what I imagine an SR flying car would look like: http://www.moller.com. You used to be able to buy their prototype on neiman-marcus.com for around 4 million dollars. It isn't there anymore, so someone must have bought it. I used to own stock in their company, but I finally decided to sell it because they really started sounding like Barnum & Bailey...all promises and hype and no delivery. |
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Jul 22 2007, 02:26 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
And mecha? :D |
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Jul 22 2007, 03:05 PM
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
But of course I want to see Mecha introduced into Shadowrun. I've always been convinced that giant bipedal vehicles made excellent military sense. I've often wondered why no modern army uses such a thing. The low, low centre of gravity that makes them so stable, the easily concealed profile against the skyline, the simplicity of transporting them by airlift or truck, the naturally braced, steady and recoil absorbing properties of the form as opposed to those rocky artilery platforms and flatbed missile launchers. Not to mention the discrete, protected location of the human pilot. And given the obvious ease with which they'd negotiate sand, mud, overgrown areas, rivers and hills, I can't see them ever tumbling onto their steel bucket butts and screaming in a loudspeaker voice "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up." My biggest fear is that Arsenal will not only fail to include Mecha, but wont have rules for dikoting them and having them possessed by my ally spirit. |
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Jul 22 2007, 03:30 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,754 Joined: 5-September 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 9,313 |
ROFL I do appreciate good sarcasm ;P |
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Jul 22 2007, 03:40 PM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! If they include those rules then that means we'd have to have sex with the mecha, and that just sounds ... painful. |
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Jul 22 2007, 03:44 PM
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
At last a good reason for cyberlimbs? Well, not limbs, exactly, but I presume it comes free with the full leg and torso replacements. |
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Jul 22 2007, 03:55 PM
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Old Man of the North ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 8,707 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
And spending hardly any extra space, you could have one of each. Talk about a multi-tasking character!
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Jul 22 2007, 03:55 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
Knasser, don't overlook mecha's great load capacity and towing capacity compared to tracked or wheeled vehicles, not to mention the passenger room and the ease of mounting and dismounting the vehicle when it's leaking fuel and burning. :)
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Jul 22 2007, 04:02 PM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I wish they'd just let Arsenal decide on one costume, grow as a character, and maybe even move up into the big leagues and off Winnick's "we're so trendy, check us out" Outsiders team and get the respect he deserves!
Oh wait, he's Red Arrow now, and in the JLA, so my Arsenal wish list came true! Err...wait...what are you guys talking about? |
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Jul 22 2007, 04:04 PM
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Cyber-genitalia, apparently. Gives a whole new meaning to "Augmented" Come to think of it... everything comes with wireless in 2070, yes? |
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Jul 22 2007, 05:51 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 834 Joined: 30-June 03 Member No.: 4,832 |
And just like cell phones , every thing in 2070 comes with a vibrate function.. |
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Jul 22 2007, 06:12 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,883 Joined: 16-December 06 Member No.: 10,386 |
I want details about vehicle storage capacity, detailed (or at least general) dimensions of vehicles/items, storage capacity, storage capacity, concealability ratings and finally, storage capacity, but not necessarily in that order.
Oh, and a pickup truck. And details of vehicle storage capacity. |
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