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raverbane
post Oct 25 2007, 12:40 PM
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I did a few searches and couldn't find a reference to this question. If it has already been asked and answered, please post a link.

The Learning Stimulus neural amplifier states "When raising a Knowledge or Language skill the already possesses, LS nanoware reduces the Karma cost by one for each rating."

If someone is raising a Knowledge skill from 1 to 2 and has a Rating 3 LS system, does it cost 0 Karma? Or is there a minimum 1 Karma, reguardless of the cost reduction?
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post Oct 25 2007, 12:44 PM
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probably a minimum of 1, like the old mnemonic enhancer in SR3.
the only thing that overcomes the minimum of 1 karma is the adept power linguistics, which lets the adept learn one language skill at level 1 after being exposed to it for some hours and then succeeding an magic test . .
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post Oct 25 2007, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele)
probably a minimum of 1, like the old mnemonic enhancer in SR3.
the only thing that overcomes the minimum of 1 karma is the adept power linguistics, which lets the adept learn one language skill at level 1 after being exposed to it for some hours and then succeeding an magic test . .

And the description of that Power specifically states the exception to the pretty much general rule that modifiers cannot reduce costs to less than 1 Karma. I figure that unless there is specific notation to delineate when an exception to a rule occurs, the general rule (or common sense) applies.
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post Oct 27 2007, 06:01 AM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
{Nanohives} should take up both Essence and capacity (when installed in a cyberlimb or the like) according to the fluff description, but as written right now they would only take capacity.

Of course, if just implanted in the body the Hives just take up Essence.

Why would they take up essence implanted in a cyberlimb? The nanite system they're sustaining might (can't remember if there's any nanosystems with an essence cost), but if it's in a cyberlimb, it shouldn't use up any more essence than a cyberlimb stereo system.
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post Oct 27 2007, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (Shrike30)
Why would they take up essence implanted in a cyberlimb? The nanite system they're sustaining might (can't remember if there's any nanosystems with an essence cost), but if it's in a cyberlimb, it shouldn't use up any more essence than a cyberlimb stereo system.

Because the description depicts the Nanite Hive replacing parts of the character's organs as part of the normal implantation process. Putting it in a cyberarm shouldn't alleviate this necessity.
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post Oct 27 2007, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
Because the description depicts the Nanite Hive replacing parts of the character's organs as part of the normal implantation process. Putting it in a cyberarm shouldn't alleviate this necessity.

The nanite hive probably shouldn't be able to be installed in a cyberlimb anyway. Nanites are designed to move through the hosts circulatory system, something that doesn't extend to a cyberlimb
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post Oct 27 2007, 09:55 AM
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I don't really have a problem with the hardware being partly housed in a cyberlimb, but there is no reason why installing it in said limb should alleviate the otherwise necessary partial replacement of the patient's organs.
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post Oct 29 2007, 02:55 PM
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Ah, okay. That makes sense :) Maybe two different essence costs listed, with one for (partial) installation in a cyberlimb (which would also have a capacity cost) and the other for completely meat-borne hives?
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post Oct 29 2007, 03:03 PM
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That's the thing. There is, in a way, a dual Essence cost. 0.5 + 0.25/rating. I am thinking of house ruling the 0.5 fixed cost to be always applicable, even if implanted in a cyberlimb.
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post Jan 14 2008, 03:30 AM
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We ever gonna see an Augmentation Errata?


And before someone posts the smartarse remark about this isnt the right thread and it should be posted in the Augmentation errata thread...

The title of this thread is "Augmentation Q&A"
with the subheading "Ask the developers and the authors"

I have a question to be answered and this was it!
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post Jan 14 2008, 04:19 AM
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Yes.

Some day we will see an Augmentation errata. The really good question would be, "When will we see an Augmentation errata?"

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post Jan 14 2008, 09:03 AM
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Yes, you gonna see an Augmentation errata.
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post Jan 14 2008, 09:54 AM
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In the NanoFax stuff, it lists an Evo(I think it is?) Subscription, with an availability that was neither R nor was it too high for someone to start with in chargen, but..it was never described as to what the subscription was. Is it just what the people who manage to get the Nanofax use to validate that they can have the stuff(even though I would assume that would be under the licensing)? Or is it something for PCs(which could be assumed by the low availability and actually in the realm of affordable at chargen price)? If for PCs, is it like one utfit per month? Or is there some sort of limit or what?
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post Jan 14 2008, 11:31 AM
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The license allows you to legally possess and operate the nanofax to produce a few basic designs. The subscription allows you to access any (archived or new) nanospecs from the corporate databases - these are not stored in the nanofax but downloaded on demand for security.

Nanofaxes are a potentially dangerous technology that have as many built in (hardware and protocol) safeguards as possible.
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post Jan 14 2008, 07:04 PM
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Just a clarification, but the section on single cybereyes mentions that you can get one in your forehead, and that it works in addition to (cyber)eyes. Does this mean that you have to have existing cybereyes? Or could a person who doesn't want to rip out their own eyeballs just have a cybereye installed in their forehead (hey, maybe even a pair!) and use them when they need imagelinking and such, and then cover them up with a beanie or baseball cap when they want to use their normal eyes?
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post Jan 15 2008, 06:18 AM
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well im no dev, but i would allow it :)

could risk a distinctive style kind of flaw tho ;)
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post Mar 29 2008, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (Synner)
The absence of DNA scanners is at least partially an unfortunate result of the change in the release schedule. Arsenal will contain such forensic devices, we had expected it to be out first. Those who need a rule can use the Diagnostics rules in the Medtech chapter.

So, where are the DNA Scanners in Arsenal? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif)
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post Mar 29 2008, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Mar 29 2008, 12:51 PM) *
So, where are the DNA Scanners in Arsenal? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif)

An entire section on Forensics was unfortunately cut from Arsenal due to space limitations. We'll see where we can slip it in. For now, I reiterate the suggestion of using the Diagnostics rules in the Medtech chapter as a placeholder.

BTW- Finally found the unpublished Guardian Angel implant writeup and will be posting it when I get home tonight.
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post Mar 29 2008, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (Synner @ Mar 29 2008, 02:08 PM) *
An entire section on Forensics was unfortunately cut from Arsenal due to space limitations.

Well, at least the Forensics Toolkit and the anti-DNA-spray made it.

QUOTE (Synner @ Mar 29 2008, 02:08 PM) *
BTW- Finally found the unpublished Guardian Angel implant writeup and will be posting it when I get home tonight.

Yay! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)
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post Mar 29 2008, 04:46 PM
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I can't seem to find this question asked anywhere, but in Augmentation, there are two listings for transgenetic modifications. the costs on page 90 are less than the costs listed in the tables at the back of the book (173). which of the two listings are correct?
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post Mar 29 2008, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Jul 28 2007, 07:50 PM) *
Can the Headware mods Radar Sensor and Ultrasound Sensor be used in goggles/glasses/contacts at the stated capacity usage?

Also the same question for the Eyewear mod Microscopic Vision?

It looks like Radar made it into Arsenal, but not Ultrasound or Microscopic Vision. Was this an oversight, or intentional?
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post Mar 29 2008, 06:32 PM
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Ultrasound can be installed in goggles and cameras since the BBB.

And Microscopic Vision is a scam, sorry - the two bonus dice most likely come from the headrest:
Standard Vision Mag is 50x - that's enough to percieve anything you can still manipulate.
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post Mar 30 2008, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig)
QUOTE (Synner)
BTW- Finally found the unpublished Guardian Angel implant writeup and will be posting it when I get home tonight.

Yay!

QUOTE (Unpublished and Unofficial)
IMPLANTED NANO-MEDKITS
Various corporations have developed and commercialized nano-medkits. These nanocybernetics combine a medkit's diagnosis processor and pharmaceutical dispenser, a specialized nanohive, a nano-biomonitor, and several nanoware systems. The best known models on the market are CrashCart's Med-Alert II and Ares Macrotech's Guardian Angel. The nano-medkit is triggered automatically when the nano-biomonitor detects a potentially dangerous health condition such as injury, infection, or the presence of a toxin.
All nano-medkits include a dermal port from which the system can be resupplied; nano-medkits may also be implanted in cyberlimbs.
Diagnosis, First Aid and Medicine Tests made by the nano-medkit roll only the nano-medkit's Rating.

CrashCart Med-Alert: This functions as an implanted Rating 6 medkit, nano-biomonitor, and a Rating 3 nanohive. The integral nanohive supports Nanosymbiotes, O-Cells, and Universal Nantidotes (all at Rating 4). It also provides a +2 dice pool modifier to Medicine or First Aid Tests to stabilize critical wounds (p. 224, SR4).
Guardian Angel: This mil-tech grade implant is provides all the functions of a Rating 6 medkit, nano-biomonitor, and a Rating 4 nanohive. The nanohive supports 4 medical nanoware systems Nanosymbiotes (or Implant Medics), O-Cells, TCS and Universal Nantidotes (all at Rating 4). It also provides a +2 dice pool modifier to Medicine or First Aid Tests to stabilize critical wounds (p. 224, SR4).


Nanocybernetics Essence Capacity Availability Cost
CrashCart Med-Alert 1.25 [4] 8 75,000
Ares Guardian Angel 1.5 [4] 14R 110,000

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QUOTE (Daier Mune)
I can't seem to find this question asked anywhere, but in Augmentation, there are two listings for transgenetic modifications. the costs on page 90 are less than the costs listed in the tables at the back of the book (173). which of the two listings are correct?

Genetech costs on pp.89-93 are the correct ones - they were a late change and we missed the charts at the back of the book.
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post Mar 30 2008, 07:24 AM
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thx Synner!
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Rotbart van Dain...
post Mar 30 2008, 10:30 AM
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Thanks, Synner.

So basically, nano-biomonitor + nano-hive + saviour-nanites = implanted medkit rating 6? (the other systems providing their usual additional benefits?)
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