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So, a mage could light someone up by peeking in on them in the shower through an eye drone connected directly through a fiber optic cable?
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Jul 30 2007, 04:53 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
No, she'd need Mage Sight Googles, which are really close to your idea.
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Jul 30 2007, 04:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 398 Joined: 16-August 06 Member No.: 9,130 |
Nothing says that you can not wear a pair of "over the glasses" goggles over glasses that are over contact lenses. :double wink: |
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Jul 30 2007, 04:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 29-April 02 Member No.: 2,659 |
If you've already got an image link, then everything else is just somewhere to cram sensors isn't it? They don't neccesarily have to go over the eyes.
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Jul 30 2007, 05:37 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...I was under the impression that Contacts were the only vision aid that would not accept a skinlink since no part of the lens actually contacts the skin itself. |
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Jul 30 2007, 05:38 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
skinlink is a misnomer. it is, in fact, your body's bioelectric field or some such thing. i see no reason why your eyes wouldn't have that same field, though i am admittedly not thoroughly educated in that area.
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Jul 30 2007, 06:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 27-January 06 Member No.: 8,205 |
Hope those contacts doesn't fall in the middle of a run...
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Jul 30 2007, 07:43 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
Yeah, you don't even need DMSO-poison in your cybersquirt. Just shoot the cybersam in the face with tap water to wash out his contacts. "Gah, I'm blind!"
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Jul 30 2007, 07:52 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
They only will if the GM decides they do (probably on a Critical Glitch relating to the eyes or head in some fashion). They're no more prone to spontaneously falling off your character than anything else is. |
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Jul 30 2007, 07:57 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...I was certain there was something in the rules that contacts could only be wireless.. Unfortunately I am at work right now & do not have my book available. |
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Jul 30 2007, 09:46 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
Here's another big drawback to contacts for mages: they blind them to astral perception! By the Rules As Written, a mage can not astrally perceive through any inanimate object even if that object is normally transparent in the real world. Therefore, a mage can not astrally perceive past a window, glasses, or even contacts.
There is a loophole that says if the transparent object was somehow emotionally charged with "transparent-ness", then the object would retain its transparentness in the astral. One example is a widow who pines for years forlornly looking out a window waiting for her husband to return would imbue the window with astral transparentness. There would be a huge market for contacts, glasses, and windows that have been imbued with astral transparentness. I imagine black market "factories" where people are lowered into dark rooms full of chained rabid pitbulls. The people would only be able to navigate through the room with thermal glasses and contacts. They would be so happy with the ability to see through the glasses, after multiple people have been through the gauntlet, the emotional charge would make the glasses and contacts astrally transparent. Personally, I think the astrally opaque glasses rule is a really stupid rule and I hope it's gone by SR5, but there it is. |
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Jul 30 2007, 10:23 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Not that I have found. |
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Jul 31 2007, 06:34 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Eh, Astral Perception isn't really vision, although it's most commonly described that way, and if a Mage can still use it after I've plucked out her eyes then I very much doubt a pait of contacts or even glasses would hinder it either.
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Jul 31 2007, 08:08 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 13-July 06 From: Long Beach Sacrifice Zone Member No.: 8,885 |
Ha-ha, you guys. I guess I deserved that. I totally agree I should have used an example that the eye was duct-taped to the back of your helmet, or your boot, or... I was also thinking the SURGE tail with complete control over the cybernetic balance tail, but that's my fault. On topic, I've worn contacts for a long, long time. There's a number of downsides to them most people don't know about. Smoke: Getting smoke in your eyes (or anything, really) is a pain with contacts. Not only can it cause vision impairment, it can dry the lens out. A contact lens that has gotten gummy and is stuck to your eyeball is a truly disturbing situation to find yourself in. Debris: if you manage to get something in your eye, it's a pain. But if it's small enough to slip under the contact, it becomes a sensation not unlike sand in your eyes. All you can do is blink furiously. Rotation/slippage: This makes me wonder about some of the 'custom' contacts out there you see, the ones with the color-enhancing ring (make your eyes BLUER) or the odd ones like the spirals, etc. Contacts slip around. All that really matters is that they stay mostly centered, but I wonder how data is displayed on a round lens that can rotate or slide. Hell, I had a lens slip under my upper eyelid for an hour when I first got them. Dryness: if you're in a car for long periods of time, or other air conditioned area, your lenses can dry out. Eyedrops of course are the easy, quick fix for this. But I don't imagine your average Shadowrunner is going to want to blow a combat action putting eyedrops in... |
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Jul 31 2007, 08:13 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Aye, I used to wear contacts as well before getting my eyes fixed and for those very reasons I make it very plain in my games that only spies without cybereyes actually use non-corrective contacts even in 2070.
However whenever I mention it several people pop up and tell me about how they can wear their contacts for weeks at a time with no hassles at all and that I'm being unreasonable. |
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Jul 31 2007, 08:38 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
My current contacts are in their 2nd week of usage and I've been to 2 construction sites with them and it's been fine. You probably have a Negative Quality, munchkin you.
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Jul 31 2007, 08:47 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Mmm, I wonder if it was worth enough BP to be able to afford Latent Awakening? 8)
*Edit* If so I really hope they get decent cybereyes on teh market before I Awaken so I don't take the Magic hit. :cyber: |
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Jul 31 2007, 02:00 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
Hey so did I! Transhumanism FTW! |
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Jul 31 2007, 04:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 29-June 07 Member No.: 12,093 |
But won't your total magic still be affected? That is if you had 1.1 Essence in 'wares and you start out with Magic 1 you'd have an effective Magic 0 right? |
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Jul 31 2007, 05:24 PM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Nope, looks like I could fit in that left cyberleg I've always wanted as well. :cyber: Seriously though, between the buying back burnt Edge rules and this one, I think that it should become standard that lossing Essence doen't actually affect your current Magic, just your max Magic. |
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 13-July 06 From: Long Beach Sacrifice Zone Member No.: 8,885 |
Wow, that's crazy.. I think you have a positive quality or something, because scraping the acoustic popcorn crap of a decent sized closet, even with eyeprotection left me with drywall dust in my eyes. When I got home and could see the drywall dust eyeboogers, I ditched that pair of lenses ASAP. Of course YMMV on lenses, I've known people who claimed they could wear extended wear lenses for a month. But when the lens starts feeling gritty.. I don't enjoy it and just take them out for a day or three. But yeah, most people don't know what lenses can mean in terms of discomfort. Tear gas and runners with advanced optics in their contacts equals totally screwed runners. |
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