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post Aug 16 2007, 10:37 PM
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No I have something...
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post Aug 16 2007, 10:38 PM
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Not completely working...
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post Aug 16 2007, 10:50 PM
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More seriously as you get more skilled in one thing it becomes harder to learn new tricks.

That was the point I was trying to make, yes.
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post Aug 17 2007, 12:10 AM
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Aaaaaaannnnd

the timer finishes and wizards.com goes down.

...and I wonder why.... :sarcasm:
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post Aug 17 2007, 12:11 AM
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Evil pixies are part of the answer the rest is in SoLA...
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post Aug 17 2007, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 16 2007, 08:40 PM)
With luck, it's a rebranded original D&D, so we can get rid of this ridiculous "class/race separation".

~J

Ah the heady days when Halfling was a class... with nothing going for it at all...

*Sits down and gets nostalgic about Red box D&D*

The direct-tolkien-ripoff bonuses to hide were awesome because of how derivative they were. Hell, man, I really want to play 1st edition D&D again, but with a Bruce Lee Impersonator character class!
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post Aug 17 2007, 12:48 AM
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The Mystic from the masters set (black box) like AD&Ds monk with more WAAAAAAH!!!! (or other bruce lee noise) 16th level, on shot everything...
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post Aug 17 2007, 01:14 AM
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The Mystic from the masters set (black box) like AD&Ds monk with more WAAAAAAH!!!! (or other bruce lee noise) 16th level, on shot everything...

I used to have the Rules Cyclopedia. I remember the Mystics. The picture for their class in the beginning of the book was ridiculous, too, featuring a woman in a formal Japanese-style kimono with a butterfly in her hair. Then she was doing the Shaolin hand-over-fist salute thing.

Damn, man, 1st edition was really all we needed!
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post Aug 17 2007, 07:31 AM
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12:30 AM: Update

QUOTE (http://announcement.wizards.com/)
Unfortunately, due to an extremely high load on our web servers, we have been unable to bring you our normal web content. We apologize for the inconvenience and ask that you please try again in a few hours! Our technical team is aware of the problem and working on it.
Thank you for your patience!


still :rotfl:
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post Aug 17 2007, 07:53 AM
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It was a shocking development. I mean, they tease, build up suspense, then... act surprised when the server crashes?
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:22 AM
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Well even at about 5 in the morning EST (I think) it's still dead teehee.
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:38 AM
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Personally, I still think it's too soon for D&D Fourth Edition, by at least two years. The balance problems haven't gotten big enough, the mechanics still provide enough of a balance between quickness and simulation, and there are several area and organizational supplements they could put out before Fourth Edition (particularly for their campaign settigns) that they haven't yet.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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post Aug 17 2007, 11:37 AM
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But it is broke, and deeply so.

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post Aug 17 2007, 02:54 PM
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Balance? Broken?
Look, they came out with the Complete Arcane, and then they came out with the Complete Wizard, as well as multiple books with alternate magic systems in them. If they want to keep selling rule books they either need to release the Really Really Complete Magicky Stuff This Time For Sure or they need a new edition.
It's about money. Most gaming companies struggle to maintain that healthy balance between income and love of the game. WotC has no such struggle.
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post Aug 17 2007, 04:47 PM
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I wonder if the new edition will still cause cancer...
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post Aug 17 2007, 05:27 PM
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We might need to come up with a new hilarious affliction.
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post Aug 17 2007, 06:25 PM
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jaundice. it'll turn your skin the same color as that horrible page was.

You know, before it turned to a white screen that said "Service Unavaialbe". 'Cause I think that would be E.D., nobody wants that.
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post Aug 17 2007, 06:51 PM
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jaundice. it'll turn your skin the same color as that horrible page was.

You know, before it turned to a white screen that said "Service Unavaialbe". 'Cause I think that would be E.D., nobody wants that.

You bastard. You hilarious bastard.
Here I am, at my desk, browsing Dumpshock. My boss calls me on the phone, with nothing important to say, but damn, he sure does take the time to say it. So I'm clicking idly away, waiting for him to summarize his long, rambling nothing regarding unrequested details of a project completely unrelated to mine, and I wandered back in to this thread.
:rotfl:
I'm lucky, he just thought his dumb story was really funny. ;)
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post Aug 17 2007, 06:53 PM
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The link works now
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post Aug 17 2007, 07:46 PM
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Well even at about 5 in the morning EST (I think) it's still dead teehee.

...should have used a preserve spell... :grinbig:

..wait, maybe that won't be available in 4th ed.

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Evil pixies are part of the answer the rest is in SoLA...

..LMAO
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:06 PM
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Balance? Broken?
Look, they came out with the Complete Arcane, and then they came out with the Complete Wizard, as well as multiple books with alternate magic systems in them. If they want to keep selling rule books they either need to release the Really Really Complete Magicky Stuff This Time For Sure or they need a new edition.

They also came out with Complete Warrior and Heroes of Battle for big burly warrior types (not to mention Tome of Battle), Complete Adventurer, Complete Scoundrel, and Dungeonscape for skill monkeys and backstabbers, and Complete Divine and Complete Champion for religious types.

I personally don't think that secular spellcasters have been getting all or even a disporportionate share of the love.

I just think that it's just about a year or so too soon.

But, of course as always, YMMV.
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:21 PM
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I just think that it's just about a year or so too soon.

Well, since it won't actually be out till next year, you can both be right. :D
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:23 PM
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Truely, you leave me speechless.
Was my point really that badly expressed?
Yes, there are books for fighters, and divine, and everything else. There are already several books for everything. That's the point. If they want to print more books, they need a new edition, 'cause they've already made them all for 3rd edition, several times.
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:33 PM
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You bastard. You hilarious bastard.


much love
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:36 PM
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It's about money. Most gaming companies struggle to maintain that healthy balance between income and love of the game. WotC has no such struggle.

Which is exactly why I don't play D&D any more, or knowingly purchase any WotC products.
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