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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869  |
The clones are like Vaarsuvius's raven. You can't see clones until you remember they are there and then they've always been there the whole time. Here's the Order of the Stick comic with Vaarsuvius's raven (along with the classic "Wait, I think I just failed a Spot check" line): http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0003.html |
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Aug 22 2007, 08:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 12-April 06 Member No.: 8,455 |
The sad thing is, I got that ref immediately. :)
Too bad OOTS and EW are only updating about once a week, these days. OOTS I can understand, but I haven't heard of EW staff having health issues or anything. |
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Aug 22 2007, 08:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: 19-May 03 From: In your base eating your food. Member No.: 4,607 |
Yes, thank you Augmentation. You've made my dreams come true. Previously I think the idea behind using the poor and disenchanted is that nobody would notice them disappearing. Also it's cheap and after awhile vessels where throwing themselves at the hives. Come one, come all. Then later they where going after the opposite end of the spectrum. The powerful, presidential candidates, etc. Nice when it works, but it's too high profile. I think the cloning technology wasn't perfected in 2045-2055. Now it's fairly cheap and available. Definitely the way to go. No more need to be close to a population center. Now of course these days it's a different ballgame, the bugs aren't as unified, Ares has their own bugs, damn shadow spirits mucking everything up, stupid mages with their laser weapon foci. Bleh. |
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Aug 22 2007, 08:35 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
Laser....weapon....focus? :love:
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Aug 22 2007, 08:45 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548 |
Laser Weapon Foci?!?! :eek:
Do tell my good friend. Do tell. |
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Aug 22 2007, 09:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: 19-May 03 From: In your base eating your food. Member No.: 4,607 |
It's not my toy, I just have regular claw gloves thingie weapon focus.
I'll let Frank or the nutjob who developed it explain. We've never actually tested the prototype, it'd take a ton of karma to bind and I don't know about him but i'm happy with the six foci I have already. He just wanted to see if it could be done. I just know it took forever to enchant, a ton of radicals, and an unholy alliance with Ares. It's something to do with the uninterrupted beam that makes it possible. You can do ranged combat in astral space with it from what I hear and blast unmanifested spirits I think. I still cry when I think of the deal he made. He basically turned over full rights to the plans in exchange for the parts and development funds. I think it's part of some master plan to piss me off. |
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Aug 22 2007, 09:23 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
What exactly is the Reach of a laser beam for the purpose of calculating bonding cost?
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Aug 23 2007, 01:28 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Hard to say. The old source books were pretty contradictory on that point. In the original Core book you got a full body clone free with your cheerios whenever you got a full Docwagon contract. Also they had those universally transplantable "Type O" organs floating around. On the flip side, when they talked about bioware in Shadowtech they flipped out about how special and difficult cloning was. In Augmentation we didn't really push cloning forward, we just looked at all the old references to how it worked and reset everything to the highest technological level. Also I wrote up a story for why the "Type O" organs that had been being thrown around for over 20 years were universally transplantable and where they came from. The implications of cloning at the high end of the presentation of the original BBB from 1989 are actually pretty intense, and just playing with that was pushing the Shadowrun setting as far as we were really willing to go.
Arrows don't work because they don't touch the user when they hit the target. So they deactivate en route. A beam weapon or a trailing cable weapon (such as a taser) don't have this problem.
Personally I use the house rule that Reach doesn't affect bonding costs of Weapon Foci. Not only is it an anachronistic throwback to when Reach was better than extra skill (as opposed to right now when let's face it - it is much worse); but every single past edition dropped the reference to Reach in bonding costs in the Magic book. I don't know why it keeps crawling back in. I tried to get Ancient History to get rid of it in Street Magic too, and he was kind of receptive. Don't know why it is still there in the rules. But if I cared, I'd count ranged weapons as Reach 2. -Frank |
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