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Wounded Ronin

Aug 28 2007, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Aug 27 2007, 09:18 PM)

Seriously, ever seen the photos? It wasn't something from below the ground, people say airburst because it looks like a forest that had a big bomb airburst over it-around the blast point the trees were blow over so they point out from the center but at the heart of the blast they are upright, but the branchs are stripped.

Just like an airburst nuke.

You know, Nightmare, I keep reading your sig and thinking, "I want the cold Mexican hooker."

Ol' Scratch

Aug 28 2007, 09:01 AM

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It predated Tesla by decades and being hundreds of miles in the middle of freaking no where it took the Russian army a few years to get out there. It was just too far for someone to haul conventional explosives or even beyond SOTA explosives. I mean why blow up freaking Siberia? It's like blowing up New Jersey, it'll be years before anyone notices and years more before anyone bothers to have a look.

Tesla (born in 1856) was in his 50's when it occured (1908). I have no idea how math works in your crazy world, but that certainly doesn't "predate" him in any real definition of the term.

And based upon the rest of what you spewed out, you clearly have no idea what the theory was in regards to why Tesla was associated with the event. Hint: It had to do with his experiments in wireless power transmissions and how it could be used to bounce off the ionsphere and used as a weapon that could strike anywhere in the world.

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Aug 28 2007, 11:33 AM

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I mean why blow up freaking Siberia? It's like blowing up ~~New Jersey~~ Nebraska, it'll be years before anyone notices and years more before anyone bothers to have a look.

Took the trouble of fixing that for you. We're not insignificant. Nebraska, however, is.:)

Kagetenshi View Member Profile	Aug 28 2007, 01:10 PM Post #29
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Aug 28 2007, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Aug 27 2007, 08:18 PM)

It predated Tesla by decades and being hundreds of miles in the middle of freaking no where it took the Russian army a few years to get out there. It was just too far for someone to haul conventional explosives or even beyond SOTA explosives. I mean why blow up freaking Siberia? It's like blowing up New Jersey, it'll be years before anyone notices and years more before anyone bothers to have a look.

Tesla (born in 1856) was in his 50's when it occured (1908). I have no idea how math works in your crazy world, but that certainly doesn't "predate" him in any real definition of the term.

And based upon the rest of what you spewed out, you clearly have no idea what the theory was in regards to why Tesla was associated with the event. Hint: It had to do with his experiments in wireless power transmissions and how it could be used to bounce off the ionsphere and used as a weapon that could strike anywhere in the world.

Even I've heard of Tesla's death ray, but if he had it operational in 1908, why not use it in 1917 or 1942? even if it was destroyed in 1908 with the blast, Tesla was not and he could have rebuilt it.

treehugger View Member Profile	Aug 28 2007, 03:01 PM Post #31
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 29-March 07 Member No.: 11,342	Hmm but dont you think Tunguska sounds much cooler than New Jersey ? I mean "the Dark Secret Mystery of New Jersey" doesnt sound as cool as just "Tunguska" ^^ So who ever did a run involving Tunguska ? or even Siberia ? (or New Jersey ?)

treehugger View Member Profile	Aug 28 2007, 03:03 PM Post #32
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 29-March 07 Member No.: 11,342	So who was that Telsa guy ? one of those IE ?

Ol' Scratch

Aug 28 2007, 03:07 PM

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Even I've heard of Tesla's death ray, but if he had it operational in 1908, why not use it in 1917 or 1942? even if it was destroyed in 1908 with the blast, Tesla was not and he could have rebuilt it.

Assuming he didn't have an Einstein moment and decide that such a "weapon" was too much for humanity. I mean, if it were the case, he created the equivalence of a nuclear explosion with the push of a button. That's pretty humbling as much as it is awe-inspiring. Heck, could even be one of the reasons we have a hole in the o-zone. :D

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Aug 28 2007, 03:24 PM

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o-zone.

I'm pretty sure this isn't actually what you meant, but the idea of Tesla blasting a hole in a Moldovan pop band is more amusing than I would have anticipated.

~J

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Aug 28 2007, 04:00 PM

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So who was that Telsa guy ? one of those IE ?

In Real Life™ Nikola Tesla, inventor of alternating current, very entertaining spark generation systems, radio, an interesting pump mechanism, and many other things that are probably the basis of technology you use daily.

Yet many people have not heard of him, because politics favored Edison and Tesla is mostly just mentioned when you need some 1900's doomsday weapon or other act of Mad Science!™.

In Shadowrun, eh, he'd probably be classified as one of Leonardo's guises throughout history.

Daddy's Litt...

Aug 28 2007, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Aug 28 2007, 10:07 AM)

o-zone.

I'm pretty sure this isn't actually what you meant, but the idea of Tesla blasting a hole in a Moldovan pop band is more amusing than I would have anticipated.

~J

Ok, this made me laugh out loud at work.

hyzmarca

Aug 28 2007, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Aug 28 2007, 08:58 AM)

Even I've heard of Tesla's death ray, but if he had it operational in 1908, why not use it in 1917 or 1942? even if it was destroyed in 1908 with the blast, Tesla was not and he could have rebuilt it.

Assuming he didn't have an Einstein moment and decide that such a "weapon" was too much for humanity. I mean, if it were the case, he created the equivalence of a nuclear explosion with the push of a button. That's pretty humbling as much as it is awe-inspiring. Heck, could even be one of the reasons we have a hole in the o-zone. :D

It is common knowledge that Tesla hid his deathray research in a safety deposit box shortly before he time-traveled to the future, gained physical immortality via future science, and became a sort of timecop.

The reasearch was discovered, of course, and seized by the government. DARPA built the machine and NASA launched it into space so that it could be used for the dual purpose of deterrence and missile defense. Unfortunately, it malfunctioned and destroyed the world, but Time-Traveling Immortal Nicola Tesla was able to avert the disaster with the help of an Irish bartender, a superintelligent mutant toddler, and several other alcohol-loving misfits.

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Aug 28 2007, 09:23 PM

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Yeah, people would notice if you blew up New Jersey. They'd wonder why the place looked so much nicer.

~J

Plus you'd have to contend with the Superhero League of Hoboken.

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Aug 29 2007, 09:12 PM

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It is common knowledge that Tesla hid his deathray research in a safety deposit box shortly before he time-traveled to the future, gained physical immortality via future science, and became a sort of timecop.

The reasearch was discovered, of course, and seized by the government. DARPA built the machine and NASA launched it into space so that it could be used for the dual purpose of deterrence and missile defense. Unfortunately, it malfunctioned and destroyed the world, but Time-Traveling Immortal Nicola Tesla was able to avert the disaster with the help of an Irish bartender, a superintelligent mutant toddler, and several other alcohol-loving misfits.

Hear hear! *Smashes his glass in the fireplace* Bless me, father, for I have thirst.

Lazerface View Member Profile	Aug 29 2007, 11:40 PM Post #41
Target Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 22-June 05 From: Behind you!!! Member No.: 7,458	And then Nikola Tesla's expiriments were noticed by the Scrin and thus, the arrival of Tiberium here on earth.

Draconis

Aug 30 2007, 04:29 AM

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QUOTE (hyzmarca)

QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Aug 28 2007, 10:07 AM)

QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Aug 28 2007, 08:58 AM)

Even I've heard of Tesla's death ray, but if he had it operational in 1908, why not use it in 1917 or 1942? even if it was destroyed in 1908 with the blast, Tesla was not and he could have rebuilt it.

Assuming he didn't have an Einstein moment and decide that such a "weapon" was too much for humanity. I mean, if it were the case, he created the equivalence of a nuclear explosion with the push of a button. That's pretty humbling as much as it is awe-inspiring. Heck, could even be one of the reasons we have a hole in the o-zone. :D

It is common knowledge that Tesla hid his deathray research in a safety deposit box shortly before he time-traveled to the future, gained physical immortality via future science, and became a sort of timecop.

The reasearch was discovered, of course, and seized by the government. DARPA built the machine and NASA launched it into space so that it could be used for the dual purpose of deterrence and missile defense. Unfortunately, it malfunctioned and destroyed the world, but Time-Traveling Immortal Nicola Tesla was able to avert the disaster with the help of an Irish bartender, a superintelligent mutant toddler, and several other alcohol-loving misfits.

Yes, my toaster told me all about that.

Herald of Verjig... Herald of Verjigorm View Member Profile	Aug 30 2007, 11:41 AM Post #43
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Aug 30 2007, 02:32 PM

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So who ever did a run involving Tunguska ? or even Siberia ? (or New Jersey ?)

I had a 'pre-SR history' game that had a portion in Siberia. I loosely drew on a Bruce Sterling short story, where Tunguska is where a spaceship landed that basically made itself into whatever you expected/wanted it to be. It was recovered by the Soviets who:

[ Spoiler ]

Anyway, it was a highly magical spot and basically a blind sight from scrying. It was the home to a semi-major magical revolutionary group which was training to overpower the gods themselves. The PC was eventually discovered to actually be a woman and was nearly raped before she ran away and was thrown into a flea-infested Soviet prison block for a few months of fate that was perhaps worse than being gang raped and left for dead in the Siberian wasteland.

I've never run anything in New Jersey. That setting is just too depressing for me.

Kyrn View Member Profile	Aug 30 2007, 03:49 PM Post #45
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando Member No.: 815	The destruction of New Jersey and Nebraska was actually rather high on the Soviet Union's "to do" list. Jersey is the single most strategically important part of the lower 48 (massive industrial infrastructure) and Nebraska is where a whole lot of our food comes from. Of course I suppose that's NAN's problem in SR...

Draconis

Sep 1 2007, 12:36 PM

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Year of the Comet, Threats 2.

~J

And of course Street Magic.

Cain

Sep 2 2007, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Aug 28 2007, 08:07 AM)

QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Aug 28 2007, 08:58 AM)

Even I've heard of Tesla's death ray, but if he had it operational in 1908, why not use it in 1917 or 1942? even if it was destroyed in 1908 with the blast, Tesla was not and he could have rebuilt it.

Assuming he didn't have an Einstein moment and decide that such a "weapon" was too much for humanity. I mean, if it were the case, he created the equivalence of a nuclear explosion with the push of a button. That's pretty humbling as much as it is awe-inspiring. Heck, could even be one of the reasons we have a hole in the o-zone. :D

The legend goes something like this: The day before Tunguska, Tesla sent a telegraph to Perry, who was on an expidition to the North Pole. He asked Perry to keep an eye out for any interesting meterological phenomena. Now, if you've studied Tesla's history, this is one of his subtle ways of letting people know he's up to something. Anyway, Perry didn't see anything, but Tunguska isn't that far from the North Pole.

Is it likely? Probably not. Is it entertaining? Hell yeah. 8) It made a great basis for a Shadowrun adventure, that was for certain.

Snow_Fox View Member Profile	Sep 2 2007, 03:58 PM Post #48
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221	I knew Tesla lived to the mid-20th century. I didn't realize he was born in the mid-19th century. considering what I've heard of Tesla's ego, I can't see him holding back or having an 'Einstein momment." More likely he'd show it off to get the praise he felt was his due. [ Spoiler ] Of course if you truly want to be a conspiracy believer, suppose he really did develop this. Maybe Einstein was the beard and it was not Oppenheimer's work that destroyed Hiroshima. After all, the Enola Gay was accompanied by two other bombers to record the event. Maybe all three planes were really to record something else airbursting over the Japanese city That could be an interesting campaign-hmmm

Cain View Member Profile	Sep 2 2007, 06:37 PM Post #49
Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178	Tesla had bad feelings about genocide, overriding even his ego. At any event, I had a fun little Shadowrun adventure where the PC's had to go for Tesla's Death Ray notes. They succeeded in stealing every copy, but then they discovered they were sitting on the principles responsible for Tunguska. Deciding what to do with those notes, while dealing with everyone coming after them, made for a fun night's game. [ Spoiler ] That also sounds like a fun little basis for a game. It'd mean that every other nuke out there was a hoax, though. It could work, however.

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Sep 6 2007, 08:21 AM

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You know, Nightmare, I keep reading your sig and thinking, "I want the cold Mexican hooker."

Heh, sweet :D 8)

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