 Curious about the status of some SR NPCs |
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 Sep 12 2007, 01:54 PM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548  |
Whatever happened to that female mage (who was often described as having a mageblade) and the decker (Dodger) that were featured in the various fluff of SR1 & 2?
I think they were both on the cover of one of the core SR rule books too. Are they both still around and kicking? |
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Sep 12 2007, 01:59 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
I think they haven't been born yet.
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Sep 12 2007, 02:11 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
I think you mean Sally Tsung. They were on the covers of 1st and 2nd editions' core books, along with Ghost-Who-Walks-Inside, IIRC.
As far as where they are now, couldn't tell you. Dodger, along with Mageara, assisted the otaku against Deus and Jormungand in part of System Failure, and I don't know of any mention beyond that. And I have no idea what the fates of Sally and Ghost are/were. |
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Sep 12 2007, 02:18 PM
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Snakehandler Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,454 Joined: 28-April 06 From: London, England Member No.: 8,508 |
Just to take a wild, uneducated, non-SR insider guess - I always assumed that the players of those characters and other classic NPCs were some of the original designers who have since (very sadly) left the game.
They left, their characters left. |
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Sep 12 2007, 02:55 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Well, Dodger has been born, as he is a Spike Baby. |
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Sep 12 2007, 03:59 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
"Has been born" or "could have been born?" |
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Sep 12 2007, 04:29 PM
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MechRigger Delux Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,151 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Hanger 18, WPAFB Member No.: 1,657 |
Dodger is dead. I believe there is something in Systems Failure about that. Or somewhere like that...
Sally disappears back into the shadows somewhere, and I believe she's mentioned in passing in a few of the novels. I'm sure someone else will pipe in here with page references. |
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Sep 12 2007, 04:34 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Aaron, I think I'm missing something here. These runners, as of 2070, have obviously been "born" in the biological sense, and are likely getting up there in age (with varying effects, obviously) by this point.
Are you using "born" to mean "have been mentioned in SR4"? |
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Sep 12 2007, 05:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 12-August 05 From: Helsinki Member No.: 7,552 |
He's just messing with you, since most of the characters AREN'T and probably never will be born IN REAL LIFE. |
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Sep 12 2007, 05:06 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 |
He's being silly. He's using the present tense to mean 2007.
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Sep 12 2007, 06:22 PM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
IIRC Ghost was in Chicago during the bug stuff and almost died his ally spirit went free and chose to stay by his side and keep him alive not sure what happened after the wall came down.
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Sep 12 2007, 06:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 9-December 06 From: the Maaatlock-Expressway! Member No.: 10,326 |
Ghost had an Ally Spirit?
Ghost-Who-Walks-Inside? Amerind guy, about this tall, painted face, dual-wields Ingrams, killed a dragon with a minigun once? THE Ghost? |
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Sep 12 2007, 06:44 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548 |
I don't recall seeing anything in SF saying Dodger died. I do know that Cap's fate is uncertain and undetermined. I'll re-read the pertinent section on Dodger this evening to see. But you know... Fastjack says he was born in 1999. It's now 2070. He's an old man. Many of those folks from 1st & 2nd Editions are now getting along in their years if they are still alive. That said, if I were a decker/hacker, I would NOT face off against Fastjack. |
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Sep 12 2007, 06:59 PM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
As I said if I remember correct it was in one of the novels it was some time ago that I read them. |
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Sep 12 2007, 07:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Germany, Regensburg Member No.: 5,709 |
There's a book about a guy in Bug City, whose ally comes free (I think it's "Buring Bright"), but that guy is NOT Ghost-Who-Walks-Inside, because Ghost is a samurai, but that guy's a mage :-)
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Sep 12 2007, 07:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 30-November 04 Member No.: 6,858 |
The guy in Burning Bright is, I think Kyle Teller.
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Sep 12 2007, 09:30 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Wow. Slap me with the Missing the Obvious stick. :D |
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Sep 12 2007, 09:40 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Canada Member No.: 12,350 |
I just checked SF. It describes that Dodger is at the heart of Overwatch's plan to destroy Deus. They are counting on Dodger to "awaken" the part(s) of Morgan that are still in Deus' core. That, combined with what's left of Morgan (Megaera) and some of Deus' Nodes that Ronin freed, they hope to destroy Deus. When Mirage and his otaku join the part, they appear to start to win, but then Puck places the Jormungand virus and the Matrix crashes.
No mention is made of Dodger after the Crash. |
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Sep 17 2007, 09:24 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 13-September 07 Member No.: 13,241 |
The "official" NPCs have always been a pet peeve of mine. I was very dissapointed to see that Prime Runners did not include The Dodger, Ghost-Who-Walks-Inside or any of the others, though i did like most of the new ones.
I saw that knasser did a nice SR4 version of Harlequin on his site. Did anybody else stat up some of the official NPCs? Or update the ones from Prime Runners? Or stat up perhaps Hatchetman, Grinder, Argent, or Striper? SR3, SR4, SR2 any edition welcome... |
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Sep 17 2007, 11:56 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Wow, there exists an NPC called Grinder? Never noticed before... where can I find him?
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Sep 17 2007, 12:22 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 4-January 04 Member No.: 5,955 |
I always wondered what happened to Nadja Daviar. According to SF she survives assasination attempt in Seattle in November 2064, apparently declares martial law but then there is nothing. It seems she did not become the President after Haeffner died.
It would seem strange that the Vice President of UCAS disappears for six years and no-one cares. |
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Sep 17 2007, 12:51 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 13-September 07 Member No.: 13,241 |
Yes there does. Grinder is the founder of the Red Hot Nukes gang in Redmond. Black dwarf adept ex-runner with an anarchic streak who likes to blow up things and founded the 'Nukes to counter a mysterious threat that he learned about on his last run. I think he's mentioned in the New Seattle sourcebook. |
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Sep 17 2007, 12:58 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Ah yeah, I remember about that gang. An interesting character, at least. :D
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Sep 17 2007, 06:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 9-September 03 From: Sorø, Denmark Member No.: 5,604 |
Sure is, and his ally spirit is/was Seeks-The-Moon. He also had ele^H^H^Hbound spirits called Charlotte and Winston. Lars |
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Sep 17 2007, 07:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 30-November 04 Member No.: 6,858 |
And water elementals called Elliot and Richard both of whom get carked by roach spirits.
As a result of this thread I ferreted out my copy of Burning Bright for a reread, probably the best SR novel I think. |
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