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> Tailored Pheromones, Twice the bang for the buck?
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post Sep 13 2007, 12:59 PM
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Besides, what about gay/lesbian/bi people? ;)
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post Sep 13 2007, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE (Hartbaine)
Since the TP add to Charisma and Social Skill Tests then it would add to the characters Charisma Attribute. For example if they practiced Black Magic and rolled their drain that's a Charisma test since it utilizes Willpower and Charisma.

I would argue that since it says Charisma and Social Skill Tests that it would only add the dice pool bonus for tests that use both charisma and a social skill. If it said dice pool bonus to charisma or social skill tests then it would apply to all tests that included either but the and means that it would only add to tests that have both.
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post Sep 14 2007, 12:26 AM
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...I can't see Tailored Pheromones adding to any magic/summoning tests, period.
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post Sep 14 2007, 12:50 AM
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Arn't drain tests are referred too with specific language that clearly is designed to exclude tailored pheromones.
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post Sep 14 2007, 01:01 AM
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I don't think the mana-sphere or any spirits would care how you *smell*. :P
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post Sep 14 2007, 02:12 AM
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The last sentence in the description for Tailored Pheromes (pg. 339) says:

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This bonus has no effect on magical abilities and tests.
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post Sep 14 2007, 02:59 PM
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...thanks.
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post Sep 14 2007, 07:54 PM
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Examples of why they would say charisma and social skill tests are the attribute only tests described on page 130.

Tailored Pheromones would add to your Composure (Wil + Cha) and Judge Intentions (Int + Cha) tests as well.
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post Sep 14 2007, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (Tarantula)
Examples of why they would say charisma and social skill tests are the attribute only tests described on page 130.

Tailored Pheromones would add to your Composure (Wil + Cha) and Judge Intentions (Int + Cha) tests as well.

Because it's easier to stay calm in emergencies if you smell better.
:D

I'm not disagreeing with how it works, just observing, that's all. Maybe you find your own pheromones subconsciously soothing.
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post Sep 14 2007, 08:21 PM
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...so, with tailored (enhanced) pheromones if you went into an ultra paranoid high security installation with Pheromone scanners you should be easier to detect.
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post Sep 14 2007, 08:28 PM
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Pg 254 KK. The threshold for detection by a pheremone scanner goes from 3 for average metahumans to 2 for those with tailored pheremones.
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post Sep 15 2007, 02:53 PM
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About tailored pheromones... they're legality F, and should be trivially detectable by a properly programmed chemsniffer from a distance of several meters. Given that you can't turn bioware off, isn't this just hanging a big 'arrest me!' sign around your neck?
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post Sep 15 2007, 04:53 PM
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They're still natural pheremones, there's just a lot of them. Depending on the sec gaurd's mood you might be detained on suspicion of having illegal bioware, but a chem sniffer alone isn't proof. You probably have a chance to talk yourself out of it, and the pheremone boosters will help. :)
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post Sep 15 2007, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (Tarantula)
Pg 254 KK.  The threshold for detection by a pheremone scanner goes from 3 for average metahumans to 2 for those with tailored pheremones.

...thanks for the ref.

I also see that female characters have a slight disadvantage depending on the time of month. :embarassed:. If she has Tailored Pheromones she can be in real trouble.
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post Sep 15 2007, 11:36 PM
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I grew up with 3 sisters so I can't imagine what a woman with a gun would be like during that time. :eek:
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post Sep 16 2007, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE (WhiskeyMac)
I grew up with 3 sisters so I can't imagine what a woman with a gun would be like during that time. :eek:

:rotfl:

Must take that into account for my female NPCs... :grinbig:
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post Sep 16 2007, 01:49 AM
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...yeah, nobody (especially elves) better piss off the Short One during that time. She's known to load her Warhawks with EXEX :grinbig:
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