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 Nov 20 2003, 05:11 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 5-April 03 Member No.: 4,388  |
I have been thinking about some applications for the shapechange/transform spells and was hoping to get input and hopefully a concensus for some critters. Please feel free to add to the list.
Alligator (other totems not listed in critters) Birds: small: hummingbird, pigeon, sparrow medium: crow, hawk, pelican, raven, chicken large: albatross, eagle, ostrich, penguin Camel Chameleon (visability modifiers?) Chimpanzee (could it use firearms, computers, etc.?) Chipmonk Cow Dolphin Earthworm Egg? Fish: small: goldfish medium: bass, trout large: marlin, tuna Frog Hog Insects? Lizard Mole Mountain gorilla (same question as chimp) Mouse Octopus (8 melee weapons?) Orca Pig Pony Porcupine (what kind of armor?) Skunk Snakes: small: garter medium: copperhead, coral, cobra (venom ratings?) large: anaconda, python Spiders? Spider Monkey Squid Squirrel Turtle Whale |
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Nov 21 2003, 10:29 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,944 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Looking at Critters, it appears B is related to size, S can be 0, C is not a factor, I is about 2/4 unless the animal doesn't depend on sense of smell to hunt (or only sense of smell as shark) or has unique sense (bat), W is 2 with a few exceptions, E is 6, R is Q+1 for predators and Q-1 for herbivores
Alligator, B5/2 to 10/4 Q4 S8 I2/4 R5 Init5+1D6 Attack 10S Birds: small: hummingbird, pigeon, sparrow B1 Q5 S0 I3/3 2L medium: crow, hawk, pelican, raven, chicken B2 Q5 S1 I3/4 3L large: albatross, eagle, ostrich, penguin B3 Q5 S3 I3/vary 4M Camel B10 Q4 S7 I2/3 6S +1 reach 2L ranged spit attack Chameleon (visability modifiers?) B1 Q4 S0 I2/3 2L +4 camo Chimpanzee (could it use firearms, computers, etc.?) Yes, probably with feet, too. B4 Q4 S4 I3/3 6M Chipmonk B1 Q4 S0 I2/3 2L Cow B8 Q3 S6 I2/3 4M (Bull would be higher) Dolphin B6 Q4 S5 I3/4 7M Earthworm B0 Q2 S0 I2/3 2L? Egg? B0 Q0 S0 I1/1 As thrown:) Fish: small: goldfish B1 Q3 S0 I2/3 2L medium: bass, trout B1 Q4 S1 I2/3 2L large: marlin, tuna B3 Q4 S3 I2/3 4M Frog B1 Q4 S0 I2/4 2L Hog B4 Q3 S4 I3/3 5M Insects? B0 Q4 S0 I2/3 2L Lizard B1 Q4 S0 I2/3 2L Mole B1 Q3 S0 I2/2 2L Mountain gorilla (same question as chimp) Many thing a human could do B7 Q4 S10 I3/4 10S Mouse B1 Q3 S0 I3/3 2L Octopus (8 melee weapons?) Maybe with levitation spell B3 Q4 S3 I2/3 3L Orca B12/2 Q4 S20 I3/4 14D Pig B2 Q4 S2 I3/3 3L Pony B6 Q4 S4 I2/3 5m +1 reach Porcupine (what kind of armor?) B1/2 Q4 S2 I2/3 2L Skunk B1 Q4 S1 I2/3 2L ranged CS attack Snakes: small: garter B1 Q3 S0 I2/3 2L medium: copperhead, coral, cobra (venom ratings?) B2 Q4 S1 I2/4 3L +venom large: anaconda, python B2 to 9? Q3 S2 to 10? I2/4 4m to 10D? Spiders? B0 Q4 S0 I2/4 2L +venom Spider Monkey B1 Q4 S2 I3/3 3L dexterity could do human attack Squid (GIANT) B8 Q4 S6 I2/4 6M Squirrel B1 Q4 S1 I2/3 2L Turtle (excepting sea and very large) B2/4 Q2 S1 I2/3 2 to 3L (snapping turtle?) Whale B20 Q4 S40 I3/3 Transform that troll sam into one on land, good luck with TN.:) |
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Dec 7 2003, 07:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Butte County, CA Member No.: 3,836 |
As far as the porcupine goes, here's what canon has to say about it's Awakened cousin.
The '6L' may be slightly lower in the non-volleying porcupine, but it sounds about right to me (: This post has been edited by ShieldT: Dec 7 2003, 07:41 AM |
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Dec 7 2003, 08:30 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 665 Joined: 20-November 03 Member No.: 5,834 |
I would think most critters would automatically get at least a partial camoflague bonus (Aside from obviously absurd cases like brightly colored parrots) simply because they're small and usually colored to match the ground. A chameleon only really gets good adaptive coloration when it's been sitting for a while, maybe a +1 to TN for every minute it stays without moving with a maximum of +6.
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Dec 13 2003, 11:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 5-April 03 Member No.: 4,388 |
One reason I inquired was concerning the Shapechange and Transform spells. You need a Body score to calculate TNs. Also, it would be nice to know reach and damage codes.
How about stats for extinct critters? T-Rex, raptors, saber-tooth tigers, wooly mammoth, dodo... These are not para-critters, so are they viable for shapechange and transform? Also saw someone mention changing sex. Is this a shapechange/transform ability? |
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Dec 14 2003, 12:23 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Mammoths aren't extinct. The Siberian seperatists go round rising them up in their neck of the woods. They've got some nifty powers as well - aside from being a massive walking insulator if it gets really cold. :) |
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