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 Nov 19 2004, 05:12 AM
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I'm also particularly fond of the original version of The Manchurian Candidate, and pretty much anything Frankenheimer did.
To Live and Die in L.A., even though I generally think William Friedkin's movies are crap (The Hunted and The French Connection being the exceptions) and he sucks. And as much as I am a great fan of The Godfather Trilogy, I find it remarkable that anyone would refer to The Sopranos in the same line and yet omit Goodfellas, which is just a rip-roaring good time of a flick. |
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Nov 19 2004, 05:14 AM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Phoenix!! How could I have forgot it?! Shame on me. :(
No Escape..pretty good. It could have been grittier. The same with Fortress. (and the even worse Fortress II) The dot thing, I don't remember the movie but I know I've seen it. What was it? |
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Nov 19 2004, 05:15 AM
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Logan's Run?
Anyway, No Escape is ridiculous (Well, anything with Lance Henricksen is, except for The Terminator). I just mentioned it to drive WWT insane. vvvvv |
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Nov 19 2004, 05:23 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
"Logan's Run" was the dot thing? Either way, great movie!!
"Aliens" was great as well as long as you have the version with the sentry guns. Good point about "Goodfellas" |
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Nov 19 2004, 05:31 AM
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Well, "the dot thing" is pretty vague, so I'm just guessing, and Logan's Run was the first one to come to mind.
If you're referring to the quote, "Would you really feel any pity if one of those dots stopped moving - forever?..." that's from The Third Man. 1949. Starring Orson Welles, set in post-war Vienna. Cool flick. The scene takes place on a rather famous Ferris Wheel in Vienna that's been the setting for quite a few other films since, including Before Sunrise, and the park was a setting in The Living Daylights. Aliens is overrated. |
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Nov 19 2004, 05:35 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Another good one: Kiyoshi Kurosawa's Cure. Social adept gone mad, anyone?
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Nov 19 2004, 05:36 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
I'll probably draw flak for this, but I really felt Goodfellas was overrated. It was good, but after all the hype, it just didn't live up. And after seeing Gangs of New York, it really became obvious that Scorsese can only make about one and a half films total.
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Nov 19 2004, 05:39 AM
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I didn't say it was good. I just think it's a fun movie to watch, like watching the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and rooting for Leatherface.
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Nov 19 2004, 05:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 485 Joined: 25-October 04 Member No.: 6,789 |
For a "megacorporations trying to control the world" movie try Paycheck. It's also good for the excellent examples of minderasing.
Escape form New York and Escape from LA should be how we all view the barrens. FreeJack has a very ShadowRun feel, including an awesome bar. |
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Nov 19 2004, 05:49 AM
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Escape from New York, sure. The sequel so thoroughly sucked though that it should be physically burned out of the collective memories of everyone who ever knew it existed.
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Nov 19 2004, 05:51 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
Payback is one of my favorite inspiration flicks whenever I'm designing a "street adept." Now with Social Skills (namely Intimidation) available as Improved Ability, it's even better.
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Nov 19 2004, 06:05 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Speaking of awesome bars, that reminds me: very tongue in cheek, but also visually fucking astounding, stylish beyond reason, and loads of fun, everyone should check out Desperado and Once Upon a Time in Mexico. They're flawed film's with Rodriguez' blind focus on the moment, and in terms of narrative and drama, aren't really meant to be taken seriously, but the cinamtography, style, and fun by the buckets make them worth seeing.
Now, that's a bit harsh. Even if I ultimately felt it was ultimately disappointing, it's a bit better as a film than Texas Chainsaw Massacre. More to the point, though, personally, I didn't really find Goodfellas that entertaining, actually. I certainly wouldn't call it a fun movie. Also, since they haven't been brought up, I'm going to mention the two Bourne films (Identity and Supremacy). There was a time when Identity was a niche film without much of a following, but I guess word got out. If you're one of the few people who has yet to see these, though, do so. The first was not perfect, but it was unusually brilliant, and what it lacked in narrative tension it made up for in exceedingly good performances and directing. For a film billed as an action movie, the action was always character driven. Supremacy was a bit of a let down in that department for various reasons, but certainly still worth seeing. |
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Nov 19 2004, 06:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 313 |
Not sure if it got mentioned already, but Carlito's Way. It has lessons on working the streets with a "code", being double crossed, and not to mention probably the best use of reputation and intimidation ever.
trapped in a room and out of ammo "Comeon in here motherfuckers, comeon I'm waitin for you.... What!?!? You aint comin in? Okay I'm comin out. Oh you up against it now motherfucker, I'm gonna blow your fuckin brains. You think you're big time??? You gonna fucking die big time. You ready?? Here come the pain!!! Kicks open the door to see all the gang members have run |
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Nov 19 2004, 06:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 3,348 |
Agreed.
No, Jet is the face. He's also a bit of a street sam, and a bit of a decker, and has some B/R skills. Faye's another physad, just not as good as Spike. |
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Nov 19 2004, 07:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
I'm going to have to see Carlito's Way again now just to watch that scene again. Damn you! |
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Nov 19 2004, 09:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 611 Joined: 21-October 03 From: Yorkshire Toxic Zone Member No.: 5,752 |
Totally agree with you. If you're into the cinematic style of play, then you can do absolutely no better than Desperado (not seen OUATIM) for ideas for small arms gun fights. If Antonio Banderas' character doesn't have enhanced articulation and move by wire then he's some kind of uberphysad. That film ROCKS, I don't care what anyone thinks about the narrative or drama. You won't care about the narrative and drama while you're watching Antiono strut down a bar moving like a ballet dancer and firing his guns like he's throwing the bullets himself... that bit where the guy jumps on him from on top of the bar, and the desperado kicks him off with both feet, unloads two fresh clips from his pistols into him and then reloads before he's hit the ground is just awesome. On a much sillier note, the original ninja turtles movie has some very nice touches as well, so long as you can get over the five foot turtles, and cheesy dialogue (s'one of my favorite entertaining films, but I know it isn't everyone's cup of tea). Good use of scenery as a weapon (trash truck compactor), almost a built in 'use of banter in melee combat 101' course, how NOT to attack a single really tough target you stupid, stupid turtles (yeah, lets all attack the guy with the cheese graters and snap blades who leads the evil ninja clan one by one... muppets), organised crime and how it operates, media interest... its all good. You just have to substitute Yakuza for the Foot, KSAF for channel 6, and a secretive physad group for the turtles+splinter. Everything else can remain - except of course that if anyone is begging for the cyberzombie treatment it has to be The Shredder.... Having now exposed my appalling taste in films I'm going to say this - nyah nyah nya nya nyah, I don't care if I'm a sad bastard, I go to movies for escapism not gritty realism. I live in inner city England. I can look outside my damn window for gritty! |
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Nov 19 2004, 09:59 AM
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Illuminate of the New Dawn Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 317 Joined: 9-June 03 From: Seattle 'Plex, UCAS Member No.: 4,700 |
Add in most stuff by Takeshi Kitano. So good. And so good for you. You get a real feel for the Yakuza in his films. And one of the coolest writer/directors ever, just as a little bonus feature.
And I'm not sure I'm remembering the title exactly right, but Fulltime Killer (I think that's the title) was cool. A Hong Kong flick about two guys, one Japanese and one Chinese, duelling it out to see who becomes the #1 assassin in the world. A little cheezy, but kick-ass action fun all the way through. For the Humanis angle, or just a really gritty Australian setting, check out Romper Stomper, one of Russel Crowe's first films. Wow. Also, while I'm on Aussie films, Chopper is a worth the watch. I think Chopper himself would be a psycho physad, or you could even use the concept as a ghoul character. Yup, he's just that crazy. I also don't think anybody's mentioned Long Kiss Goodnight. Secret organizations, mental screw-jobs, sleazy detectives for hire, and big guns. |
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Nov 19 2004, 10:11 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
In real life Chopper is just a nut case thug who got lucky a few times by ambushing people whi somewhat trusted him. In jail he was regularly beaten, which is what he mutilated himself to get away from.
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Nov 19 2004, 10:18 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Speaking of movies about two hitmen intent on killing eachother and being number one in the world, there is Assassins. It's a 95 film written by a certain pair of notable Wachowskis. Complete crap, too, though Banderas carries the film (if it's carried at all) on force of charisma, and it's got fun moments and some good action ideas that are executed admirably on occasion. Far, far from brilliant, but if you run across a copy and are willing to watch a fairly mediocre film, there's worthwhile stuff in there in terms of style.
Also, spotlite, if you really loved Desperado that much, just buy Once Upon a Time on faith. I'm pretty sure there's exactly one thing you'll be disappointed with, and you will probably have a heart attack of happiness from the rest. As for film/art snob types snubbing something like Desperado or Once Upon a Time, well, I just dont' accept that. I imagine most people would say I fall in that category, and if you can snub either of those films, you are absolutely dead inside. Also, Long Kiss Goodnight was an unofficial film adaptation of the Bourne Identity, and unlike the movie of that name, it follows the book very closely. I have yet to see it, but from my knowledge of Ludlum, this can be nothing but bad. |
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Nov 19 2004, 10:31 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Considering the extremely limited budget of Desperado, and its even smaller-budgeted predecesor, El Mariachi, they should qualifiy as classics.
... even with 'art snobs'! :D |
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Nov 19 2004, 10:36 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Long Kiss Goodnight does not follow the book closely in anything but the amnesia premise. The Bourne Identity was mostly staged in Paris, and other parts of Europe to a lesser extent. It's main plotline is for Bourne to find his identity and prevent his former employers from assasinating him. The Long Kiss Goodnight is set in Niagara Falls. It's main plotline is for Gina Davis to prevent the terrorist bombing of an international bridge while saving her daughter and remembering a past lost 8 years (or so?) ago. Pretty close! :eek: |
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Nov 19 2004, 10:44 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Hm. That's very much not what I read. I'd have to see it and read the book to say anything definite, however, and I'm not willing to read a Ludlum novel for anything short of saving thousands of lives.
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Nov 19 2004, 10:54 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Well, take it from me, who has seen both movies and read the Ludlum novel The Bourne Identity. The movie of the same name is very close to the book, while the Long Kiss Goodnight holds only a few similarities in premise in common with the novel, and nothing else.
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Nov 19 2004, 01:18 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
The Long Kiss Goodnight is also just a fun ride. I mean, come on...Geena Davis and Samuel L. Jackson in the same movie, with lots of stuff blowing up?
Speaking of Samuel L. Jackson: Another fun ride, and good SR training IMHO, is The Negotiator. Jackson and Kevin Spacey star as competing hostage negotiators, one of whom (Jackson) is framed and decides to go on the other side of the equation to solve the crime. Plot's a little thin in places, but most shadowrunners should plan as well as Jackson's character improvises in this movie. |
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Nov 19 2004, 01:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,528 |
Not to mention: + Jackson is the "bumbling sidekick" to be rescued by our heroine + The film came out shortly after "Under Siege" and has more than one "cook" reference + The film lives from the "I am a peaceful teacher / Rambo with boobs" split in Davis character Great one (seen it only six times so far)! |
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