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 Nov 27 2004, 06:49 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 11-September 04 From: French Runner Member No.: 6,652  |
How about Demolition Man for the rebel underground which was a good illustration of what the Ork Underground might look like...
Definitely Sneakers (is that the English title? The expert team led by Redford) Escape from NY is not so much an illustration of the Barrens that a great depiction of the Chicago CZ for me... "Face/Off" for way of the gun adepts (in fact pretty much all of Woo's movies...and yes, even MI2 a lot of films that have already been mentioned (Blade Runner, Johnny Mnemonic, The Matrix series, Stange Days which is one of my favorite cyberpunk-without cyber movie...) For films which (unless I was distracted) have not been cited: - Robocop for cyberware of course, but mostly for cold uncaring all-powerful megacorps (OCP) - American Psycho for the futile powergames among young corporate sharks (after all, the book is definitely tied to the 80s, like SR) - Aliens for the Marines packing milspec gear that you get in SR, like a nasty Ares MPHMG on a Gyromount for example...and the other Alien films for the Weyland Yutani corp (except that stupid Alien vs Predator film... - Predator 2 for the gang war in the beginning and the ethnic gangs (voodoo, latino...) - Angel Heart for the private eye loser and the Voodoo folklore... - that bad film starring sex-crazed Demi Moore and Michael Douglas for the VR scene in a database , very good way of explaining what the Matrix looks like for beginners with no familiarity with cyberpunk concepts... - Training Day for gang atmosphere - Candyman for the Cabrini Green Housing Project (hey, I'm just a French guy, I need some pictures to get the feel...) before the CZ. - the Hulk to realize how bulky a troll is (just kidding) - Abel Ferrara'sKing of New York and all the Scorcese movies for Mob stories - del Torro's Mimic and Cronenberg's the Fly probably the best movies with Insect Spirits (Flesh form in the Fly, True Forms in Mimic) with the Alien movies for the ultimate predator behavior which fits the Insect Spirits so well - Black Rain for the yakusa (with Crying freeman, which was mentioned by someone else) - Spielberg's AI and Proyas's I Robot for wonderful cityscapes and design of 21st century everyday life design... - Dead Man a very strange and crepuscular western but also one of the only movies showing Pacific Northwest Native Americans (probably Haida or Tlingit) - 8 mm for the darkest corners of the underworld (snuff movies, etc...) - Dead Zone for the Psychometry Metamagic - a wacky HBO film with Dennis Hopper Detective Philipp Lovecraft for magic in a modern setting - Ghost Dog for a wonderful adept character following the code of Bushido - Underworld, a bad movie , but nice costumes - Kiss of the Dragon (I'm not sure about the English title) starring Jet Li for a cool acupuncture adept... - Fight Club for the best apocalyptic fight-the-system policlub ever...and for Tyler Durden, of course -Ravenous for the Wendigo - The Usual Suspects for a run gone bad and a double-crossing Johnson .... and so many others... |
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Nov 27 2004, 06:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 11-September 04 From: French Runner Member No.: 6,652 |
oh yes, Harry Potter for a hermetic magical group :D
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Nov 27 2004, 06:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 11-September 04 From: French Runner Member No.: 6,652 |
To see how it feels to be standing next to a big Ork or Troll, The Green Mile for Michael Clarke Duncan's awesome physical presence and gravelly voice
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Nov 28 2004, 07:46 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
Two minor points. 1) 8mm was a redoing of a 70's film starring George C. Scott called Hardcore, with Peter Boyle (among others). George C. Scott played a conservative midwestern widower whos daughter disappears in LA on a Bible Trip. He tracks he down-- with the help of Peter Boyle, a PI-- and finds out she ran away and has fallen in with seedy LA pornographers. I never saw 8mm because I'm allergic to Nicholas Cage, so I have to stop just short of saying Hardcore is the superior film: it is however, very, very good. 2) The quirky HBO movie you are thinking of is To Cast a Deadly Spell, and it stars Fred Ward, not Dennis Hopper. David Warner plays a rich man looking for a very dark book, Julianne Moore (is that her name?) plays the femme fatale, and Cthulu is played by himself. A very weird, very interesting little made-for-tv flick, pretty much required watching for anyone whos going to run a pulp noir style game that deals with the supernatural (which, time period aside, is very SR). I actually ran To Cast a Deadly Spell as a SR adventure, many years ago. As I recall, it went pretty well. (It has been a few years, all I really remember is the riggers van got set on fire, and he was mad about it.) Edit: In the spirit of always adding new stuff, I'm also going to put Dark Blue on the list. Kurt Russel, Ving Rhames, the LA Riots. Can't miss. The two crackheads are great npcs (or the pcs, depending on how you run it). And The Tailor of Panama, and Blade II for the Lenora Valera combo. Both were good SR movies for different reasons; and Lenora Valera in TToP is hotter with half a face than most women are normally. Her role in Blade II was kind of a throwaway, but in Panama, she brought a fierce, wounded intensity to a pivotal role. |
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Nov 28 2004, 07:58 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 4-January 04 From: Redbridge, London, UK Member No.: 5,957 |
Did I simply miss it, or did everyone here fail to mention (surely you just forgot) the Shadowrun classic called Split Second?
Say it together now: Split Second. . . . We're going to need bigger guns. |
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Nov 28 2004, 08:21 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
Enemy At the Gates also, for city warfare. And I believe there was a movie called Drive with Mani from Brotherhood of the Wolf, Doug E. Fresh and Brittany Murphy before she started looking like a crackwhore (albiet, a hot one).
My intense distaste (or possibly, mild hatred) for BotW keeps me from putting it on the list, except in the form of this non-nomination nomination. My entire complaint can be summed up in this rant: "Hey, why don't I check and make sure this guy I barely know who has been lightly brushed to the ground is okay so my most trusted ally in the world can go off by himself to hunt down the giant, bulletproof monster that has killed countless men. And if I have to avenge him, despite the fact I am a poofy French scientist and he is a American Indian Warrior, no worries, because I'm actually a better fighter than he is! We're both kung-fu masters, you see! Except he wasted points on being able to see spirits and I went all Kung-fu apparently! Gee, I hope this doesn't end to some sort of giant end battle where everybody has fake ass Mortal Kombat weapons." |
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Nov 28 2004, 08:46 AM
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You missed it by at least 14 months and 19 days. Link And I said it before and I'll say it again: I hate that movie, and I hate that line. Oh, man... speaking of getting my hate-on. I thoroughly despise Enemy at the Gates, specifically because I had been waiting at least 18 months for that POS to come out, and when I finally saw it, it was just... crap. |
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Nov 28 2004, 08:57 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
8mm was not a remake of Harcore; Hardcore was simply cited as a major influence. The two are very different films. I do recommend 8mm (and not for any of this "It's a Shadowrun movie!" bullshit), but I will only do so with due warning: it is the single most disturbing movie I have ever seen, and while it is not necessarily an exceptionally well made film (it's very well acted, well written with some incredibly standout stuff, and reasonably well directed, but the direction is probably its weakest point), it's certainly worth seeing. Some people will not have the stomach for it. Also, completely agree about Lenora in Tailor. Then again, everything about that movie was incredible. |
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Nov 28 2004, 09:02 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I was just about to say the same thing. |
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Nov 28 2004, 09:31 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
Remake, strongly inspired, phah. With the exception of Gus van Sants Psycho, no movie is ever truly a "remake" of the original. They always change essential elements. When someone stays close enough to the source material that they have to cite it, I feel justified in calling it a remake.
I probably will never see 8mm, citing the allergy to Nic Cage I spoke of earlier. He is in the group of actors that I used to enjoy and somewhere along the line came to despise. Raising Arizona is probably the only movie of his I could go back and watch today. Bruce Willis is in the same category. The only movie of his I could go back and watch is Die Hard, or conceivably, Blind Date (which was an excellent SR movie). Which, if we include Blake Edwards movies, that'll put in Victor/Victoria, SOB, and the Pink Panther Series, dating back to A Shot in the Dark (which was before the Pink Panther diamond was ever mentioned, come to think of it). And if we do that I'm putting in Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, and Spaceballs. |
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Nov 28 2004, 09:40 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
But 8mm isn't a remake, nor is it even based upon Hardcore. The storyline is totally different, with really only the pornography aspect in common, and even is only very tenuous connection. Hardcore is not cited as it's source material, merely given a nod as one of many points of inspiration.
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Nov 28 2004, 09:52 AM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
That movie was Drive starring Mark Dacastos and Kadeem Kardison. I own it on DVD, it was originally a made for HBO movie, and I think it's definitely worth a rental. |
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Nov 28 2004, 10:04 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
My apologies. In the review I originally read (which is probably what started me not wanting to see it), it was listed as a remake of Hardcore. If remake was not the term used, it may have been "updating" or something synonomous. My point is only that Hollywood consistantly "remakes" movies in which plot, characters and storylines are totally different. I think, if anything, its a legal term to describe who gets paid. I could remake Casablanca as a gay tap dancing movie set in Terra Haute Indiana, with Major Strausser replaced by a monkey, as long as I someone was willing to sell me the rights; whereas many films blatantly steal from other films. (In Hollywood I believe this is called "Creativity").
For instance, A Fistful of Dollars is only a "remake" of Yojimbo film because Kurosawa sued Leone over the rights. (Which is neat as Yojimbo was the Japanese film version of the American Dashielle Hammet's book "Red Harvest". Later, the Coen Brother's "Miller's Crossing" would borrrow direct elements of that book as well as one or two others, without attribution, even though it was plainly obvious where they got their inspiration, down to the names of some of the clubs. When "Last Man Standing" came out, it listed Yojimbo as its primary source, without mentioning the book Yojimbo itself was based upon.) Edit: One last thing: Yojimbo itself never credited Red Harvest, either. So that's four movies from the same source, none of whom credit that source, but who have variously acredited, not acredited, or sued each other over the rights to the storyline (even though all the settings and characters are all different). |
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Nov 28 2004, 10:04 AM
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I don't know. Irreversible comes pretty close if it doesn't beat it. Anyway, I agree with the directing part--but that's to be expected considering [i[who[/i] the director was. I am ambivalent about TToP compared to the book, compare to some of Le Carre's other stuff. Of course, I was also a bit taken aback at who one of the Americans was supposedly based on. |
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Nov 28 2004, 10:20 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
Every review I read of Irreversible, said it was was one of the most gut-wrenching, unforgivably brutal scenes in movie history. (I'm assuming they meant in wide release, as none of these people have seen my sister's wedding video. Ha! I kid the friend of the family who can't hold a camera still for four seconds.)
Every review of 8mm said, blah blah blah, Nic Cage. I'm not saying this is damning evidence one way or the other, as I have seen neither movie. I should point out I only read reviews of movies I don't want to see, as reviews always spoil the movies. Why would I, a person who has seen neither movie comment on them? Well, thats an excellent question. I don't really have an answer for you there. Moving on, I never read ToP, so I wasn't disappointed in how the movie turned out differently, if indeed it did. (I don't know if Geoffery Rush played the same part in the book as he did in the movie.) I though Pierce Brosnan was very good in it. A friend of mine who likes Brosnan and is a big fan of the Bond movies bought ToP thinking it would be the same sort of thing and he absolutely hated it. All I knew about it going in was the basic cast and that it had something to do with espionage, but I thought the brutal send up of the Bond mystique was excellent. Brosnan looked like he was having a lot of fun playing the evil twin. |
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Nov 28 2004, 12:28 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099 |
Depending on your GM, finding similarities in your SR game and the Venture Brothers cartoon...may be rather easy.
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Nov 28 2004, 04:41 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 4-January 04 From: Redbridge, London, UK Member No.: 5,957 |
Ah, the story--I confess--of my life. |
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Nov 28 2004, 07:33 PM
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I don't know if it was as awful as people say it was, although I don't think when I was watching the DVD my tv was able to carry the bass line that made several viewers in Canne sick.
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Nov 29 2004, 03:55 AM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
I also found "The Transporter" to be a good SR feel movie.
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Nov 29 2004, 03:57 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Fixed. |
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Nov 29 2004, 04:05 AM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Fixed?
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Nov 29 2004, 04:12 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Read Arethusa's quote. :D
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Nov 29 2004, 04:17 AM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
d'oh
I'll admit the guy was a little "too good" kinda reminded me of some of the Munchkins I've encountered. Rtg 6 in HtH, Cars, SUT, Ass. Rifles, Athletics, Getting away with it, Italian Coffee Drinking, Asian Chick Pickup lines, Self Grooming, and Architecture |
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Nov 29 2004, 09:39 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099 |
Heh I wonder how the Jason Bourne character would stats out. |
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Nov 29 2004, 01:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 11-September 04 From: French Runner Member No.: 6,652 |
Oh yes I forgot about this one: a French action movie called "Nid de Guepes" in French: about a small heist turned bad: a few guys who want to rob a warehouse and by sheer unluck, a group of SWAT soldiers transporting a terrorist bound for trial end up in the same warehouse which is soon besieged by terrorists...intense action, nice costumes..
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