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 Dec 6 2003, 08:00 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 806  |
Ey! I was just thinking the same thing, great minds and all ;). Fear Factory would be pretty self-explanatory, at least the record "Obsolete". Another good 'metal spiced with electronics'-act is Red Harvest (especially "Ad Noctem" or the intro on "The Itching Skull"!), but after that Im out of ideas. If someone knows more of what Im trying to describe, feel free to add please. Especially if it has a sort of 'epic' feel alá FF's "Resurrection". |
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Dec 6 2003, 08:17 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 5-December 03 Member No.: 5,880 |
Good SR music would be some big band jazz or Bebop.
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Dec 6 2003, 08:46 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Amidst the ruins of Silicon Valley. Member No.: 5,242 |
To go off on a slight tangent, what about the unfortunately short-lived TV series Firefly? To me, that always had a bit of the "authoritarians vs. rebels/outsiders" feel of Shadowrun, along with big corps (Blue Sun, anybody?), unusual medical experiments, some references to cyberware and bioware (admittedly in one of the eps that was never broadcast, but got on to the DVD set -- "The Message"), guns, crime, and high-tech all over the place.
Hell, it's even got crime bosses. :D |
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Dec 6 2003, 11:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
I finally got around to seeing Once Upon a Time in Mexico, and other than being the worst of the movies in that series, it was a 100% pure Shadowrun style movie, especially plot-wise. About the only thing that would need to be changed for 2063 would be the setting, moved out from Mexico and into some other third world unstable nation...
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Dec 6 2003, 12:14 PM
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Has anyone seen the promos for 'Paycheck' by John Wu? Looks to be very SR in nature-near future, trid, guns, 'runs for a paycheck...
R |
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Dec 6 2003, 04:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Leeds, UK Member No.: 4,046 |
One of the great things about SR compared to other games is that you can get inspiration from anywhere. Apart from LOTR films there's not a lot that would remind me about traditional fantasy games, whereas just about every film or TV program has something vaguely SR-esque in it.
Thinking from the top of my head - Mission Impossible (the TV series) is a great example of what can be done without drawing a gun. The films have some good aspects as well (until MI2 becomes obviously directed by Woo - slo-mo 2 pistols anyone?). Another one I like is Buffy (so sue me) - teamwork, horror/fantasy and some nice bits of humour that are missing from too many games. Even from kids TV there are some nice elements in things like Max Steele (I must remember to check out Cowboy Bebop next time it's on). There were a few absolutely tremendous Asian films I saw a few months ago on the now defunct UK channel CNX (Toonami just doesn't cut it) that were SR *all* the way (one of which sounds pretty much like one already mentioned - with stolen biotech (a vaccine?), double crossing, guns, chasing and deckers hiding in the van! - I can't recall the name either so I can guarantee that at 3am I will awake and suddenly remember). Generally the better SR material seems to be from HK and Japan - even John Woo's early stuff is good (especially with Chow Yun Fat) - than western. Thinking of more mainstream films, one that stands out is Black Hawk Down for the sights and sounds of combat. Training Day is a good one for urban scenes and corrupt cops. There's probably more. Looking at lists of HK/Asian movies I noticed some with obviously SR-like titles - Cyber Ninja anyone? :) |
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Dec 6 2003, 04:30 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Ya know, with all the hype surrounding "Black Hawk Down", I thought "Saving Private Ryan" to be more intense.
-Siege |
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Dec 6 2003, 04:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
Heh, Cowbooy Bebop isn't what you would call kids TV though...excellent as it is.
The reason we can draw such inference from so many sources is that SR is based in the real world, so obviously things from the real world translate over well. |
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Dec 6 2003, 04:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Leeds, UK Member No.: 4,046 |
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Dec 6 2003, 06:46 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 11-July 03 Member No.: 4,903 |
Blade Runner, and Johnny Mneumonic are easily the two best films to watch for shadowrun a shadowrun feel, there also great for getting ideas.
Also Akira does well, along with Jin Roh. If you want some really great ideas just read a couple William Gibson novels (Neuromancer :smokin: , Count Zero :cyber: , and Burning Chrome 8) ) and Xirces, You must not have ever seen Cowboy Bebop before if your calling it a kids show. Not all animation is for children, go out and rent Akira sometime. |
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Dec 6 2003, 07:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Leeds, UK Member No.: 4,046 |
I didn't for one minute mean to suggest that Cowboy Bebop is a kids show.
I'm a huge fan of animation (including *shock* actually owning Akira) - the only reason that got in there is because Cowboy Bebop is on what I (and Sky TV for that matter) would consider a kids channel (it's either Fox Kids, Cartoon Network or Toonami), whichever my son was watching earlier. It's not a program he's ever wanted to watch so I've never checked it out - although it has to better than c**p like Totally Spies so I'll suggest it to him and get him watching that instead. (I'm still happy that he preferred the original Transformers on DVD to the stupid, annoying modern rubbish Armada - at the risk of a mjor thread derailment most modern 'toons are utter rubbish, but the toys are better) |
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Dec 6 2003, 08:07 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
For books, The Iron Dragon's Daughter by Michael Swanwick works amazingly well. It's rather more fantastical than Shadowrun, with less emphasis on tech, but it's much the same sort of gritty, distopian world. Not to mention a really, really good book by itself.
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Dec 6 2003, 08:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 2-December 03 Member No.: 5,871 |
I beleive after oliver stone did natural born killers Tarantino wanted his name out of it, thats what I heard ayway. most of what I am going to list has a general feal, its no carbon copy, and it mainly has to do with how the people in these movies act like shadowrunners, corpers, and gangers Take out the space travel and you get COWBOY BEBOP!!! spike: adept powers, inceasedstreangth quickness body, improved reflexes, martial arts style at 10, pistols 8, great fall, magic armour at an undetemened lvl. increase flying skills (jet plane) yadda yadda Jet: Cyber arm with strength mods, smart link, he is a rigger i guess. Faye: the face......okay a very bad one, but she has a high charisma Ed: Decker Ein: Really good decker (okay so he's a dog :D ) great use of contacts and leg work. Plus spikes nemisis, physad who has all same stats but uses edged weapons instead of unarmed combat. Other movies Way of the gun (kidnap and ransom, big showdown with mafia goons a favorite of mine) Killing Zoe (a little bit like SR) The Limey (again, great feal for using contacts, fixers, stealth and subtelty) Salton sea ( a little bit, contact involvment, working for the feds, but not really, ripping of the johnson) I know its not a movie but The grand theft auto games (admit it they are, get hired to whack guys steal things and...... whack guys) If you want elf society watch the velvet goldmine.........NO DONT NEVER DONT DO IT I WAS JOKING!!!! (ex-girlfriend rented it, I almost killed her, nightmares of glitter an gay sex ahhhh must wash brain!!!!) Trainspotting (low level deals and thugs) Snatch (see above) Lock Stock and 2 smoking barrels (also above) Wild at heart The long goodbye= detective, mafia, freind is dead, her husband the detectives friend as well is missing, big bag of money is also missing. GREAT MOVIE, main character Phill Marlow is histreical/made in the 70's/ mercuty rising (although it wast very good) Unbreakable (if you think the guys a physad raise your hands... I only say this one to get the apeal of a physad) many more i cant think of at the moment. |
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Dec 6 2003, 08:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 665 Joined: 20-November 03 Member No.: 5,834 |
From Cartoons Gargoyles is fairly close to Shadowrun. You'd have to assume a non-canon metatype for the gargoyles but it's got all the elements, massive prejudice against metatypes, the Quarrymen match Humanis, between Xanatech, Cyberbiotics, and Nightstone Enterprises you've got all the evil megacorps you could want. Heck, Xanatos justified his use of military gear in the first episode by saying his corporation was already larger than most countries and thus deserved to defend itself. Then you've got heavy use of Cyberware ranging from Coldstone to Jackal and Hyena, the heros routinely getting screwed by their "Johnson," genetech floating around, and multiple forms of magic including both shamanic and hermetic traditions.
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Dec 6 2003, 09:03 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
Gould made a fantastic, albeit unusual Marlowe. The movie went kind of limp at times, though, including some plot holes and over-the-top acting. It's worth seeing just for Elliot Goulds great performance, though. :) |
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Dec 6 2003, 11:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 2-December 03 Member No.: 5,871 |
so many great lines in that movie.
almost forgot arnold swartze swartzen........ The terminator is in it as a mafia body guard. he doesnt talk, just sits there and flex's. silly Governor Arnold. |
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Dec 7 2003, 05:34 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 2,137 |
in one of the sites posted earlier was this movie with this line to tie it in to SR...
Deep Rising * RATING: (/) Year: 1998 Director: Stephen Sommers Stars: Treat Williams, Famke Janssen - Perhaps a beta version of an early VCR? beta? vcr? eh? wouldn't that be early 80s, no 1998? okay, so I have a poor sense of humor... |
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Dec 8 2003, 02:26 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Worcester, MA Member No.: 5,621 |
I'm also a fan of Payback, with Mel Gibson. Definately has the "screwed runner seeking revenge" vibe.
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Dec 8 2003, 03:13 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 26-November 03 From: Netherlands Member No.: 5,850 |
Barb Wire?
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Dec 8 2003, 09:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 280 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Singapore Member No.: 4,487 |
True Romance
Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette ... Can't remember the year it came out ... quite old. Good closing three-way gunfight scene in the hotel room! :D |
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Nov 18 2004, 09:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 6-August 03 From: Polish Ghetto Member No.: 5,342 |
Very old topic - but good one. It's time to shake it a bit :)
Some old movies: - Assault on precinct 13 - lousy precinct in LA is under the siege. Policemen and arrested people fight side by side to survive. John Carpenter rules! - "The Channel"/"Sewer"? by Andrzej Wajda - This is polish(as I am :) ). Be warned: It's W&B movie! Great, claustrophobical one. Uprising in Poland during WWII. Almost whole movie is taken in sewers. Germans drops grenades, young polish soldiers try to escape... - The warriors(?) - gangers in the trouble. Small gang far from their turf get in trouble and is chased by all (New York) gangs. DJ acts as a spotter - he tell through radio location of unfortunate gangers. I'm almost sure that one of D12 video clips was inspired by this movie - Mark 13 - very cyberpunkish forgotten b-class movie:) with Iggy Pop as Angry Bob DJ. The idea is rather lame, but(robot try to kill a girl. She's pure mechanic archetype, by the way:) ) the scenography and few quotes makes this movie real cult one:-) - Liberator 2 - bad guys are shadowrunners. Check also ucas-online for 100 shadowrun-style movies(I forgot the link, but it's somewhere here, on Dumpshock). Shame I can't submit my favorite ones :( too many 13s :rotfl: |
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Nov 18 2004, 10:08 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
It's a shame Heat only got a brief mention here. It wasn't flawless, but it was very good, and outside of film critique, it's a pretty solid model for shadow running. But since i don't give a damn about that, just see it anyway and appreciate it as a great movie.
On similar lines, the recent Collateral didn't get the recognition it deserved. That movie was just fucking wonderful, and while I have my issues with it (mostly the ending), I highly recommend it. Also, check out Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. Buy the dvds (released up to the third, now, I believe) or just download the first season (secon'd half released under the title 2nd Gig). It's ridiculously good. Speaking of Ghost in the Shell, check out the sequel to the movie, Innoncence. Some people really hated it, but they're all wrong in every important way. |
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Nov 18 2004, 10:13 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I loved the fact that the world of Innocence was altogether dirtier and more polluted. It had a kind of despairing feel that the first didn't.
~J |
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Nov 18 2004, 10:37 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Yeah, the second really played up the noir angle.
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Nov 18 2004, 10:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 |
Well, not so much the femme fatale bit of the noir angle.
The reunion between Batou and Kusanagi was just beautiful. When he put his jacket on her, I was struck by what a great touch that was. You get the feel for how much history they share. When I saw it in the theatre, the host asked if anyone hadn't seen the first one. I felt really sorry for the people who hadn't. |
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