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post May 1 2008, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE (Gray @ Apr 30 2008, 04:47 PM) *
I did a render of my take on the male and female elf. ==> Elves


Hrm. Not bad, but I still think they should be a bit thinner. I like the faces, though.
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post May 1 2008, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE (cryptoknight @ Apr 30 2008, 04:13 PM) *
Anybody know where I can find a lot of free clothes? I'm looking for things like utility jumpsuits... not the skintight stuff.

Kind of like the picture on this book
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It's not quite free, but if you join the Platinum Club on DAZ you can get this for $1.99 ==> S.P.V. Tactical Suit for A3. It would be mine already if it was for V4.

QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Apr 30 2008, 08:04 PM) *
Hrm. Not bad, but I still think they should be a bit thinner. I like the faces, though.

Think of them as above average in your world. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I have an almost eerily thin body morph for V4 called Alice. I'll do a picture with her and try to make a male to match.
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QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Apr 30 2008, 07:04 PM) *
Hrm. Not bad, but I still think they should be a bit thinner. I like the faces, though.

thinner?
really?
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QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Apr 30 2008, 06:04 PM) *
Hrm. Not bad, but I still think they should be a bit thinner. I like the faces, though.

...I have to agree with Swirler. Any thinner and woman be knocked off her feet by the wind from a passing GMC Bulldog. There's a point to where too thin can become grotesque. I think Gray has them pegged pretty dead on.
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post May 1 2008, 03:45 AM
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My take on male and female orks ==>Orks
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QUOTE (Gray @ Apr 30 2008, 08:45 PM) *
My take on male and female orks ==>Orks


Nice thighs and hips, but I think she should be a lot bustier. Ork females should scream "fertility".
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post May 1 2008, 03:27 PM
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did someone say NAN characters?
well okay male ones anyway
heh

EDIT:
the ALICE Figure by Aery Soul is for sale at renderosity. Apparently it will be unavailable after tomorrow. It might be interesting for elves. I'm thinking about getting it.

it's reqs the v4 base
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post May 1 2008, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE (swirler @ May 1 2008, 10:27 AM) *
did someone say NAN characters?
well okay male ones anyway
heh

EDIT:
the ALICE Figure by Aery Soul is for sale at renderosity. Apparently it will be unavailable after tomorrow. It might be interesting for elves. I'm thinking about getting it.

it's reqs the v4 base

I hasve the Wild Side Hair used in the NAN morph pictures. It is a nice product.

I got the Alice product last week, and I don't really like it. She's so skinny the morph has to make V4's head smaller so it doesn't look too huge. And somehow she has big perky breasts. Must be implants. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This is the body I use as a base for my female elves, just need to add Fitness, young and thin morphs. ==> Fearill for V4
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QUOTE (Gray @ May 1 2008, 04:48 PM) *
I got the Alice product last week, and I don't really like it. She's so skinny the morph has to make V4's head smaller so it doesn't look too huge. And somehow she has big perky breasts. Must be implants. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This is the body I use as a base for my female elves, just need to add Fitness, young and thin morphs. ==> Fearill for V4

lol
strangely enough though, she looks alot like I picture trid starlets in SR to look, more than slightly inhuman
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post May 2 2008, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE (Gray @ May 1 2008, 03:48 PM) *
I hasve the Wild Side Hair used in the NAN morph pictures. It is a nice product.

I got the Alice product last week, and I don't really like it. She's so skinny the morph has to make V4's head smaller so it doesn't look too huge. And somehow she has big perky breasts. Must be implants. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This is the body I use as a base for my female elves, just need to add Fitness, young and thin morphs. ==> Fearill for V4


Aha! Now THAT'S how I expect elves to look.
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post May 2 2008, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ May 1 2008, 08:45 PM) *
Aha! Now THAT'S how I expect elves to look.

Do you man the Alice model or Fearill? Fearill is what I picture female elves to look like, only I made my render even skinner than the base as a nod to you (Fitness 1.0, Thin .5, Young .5) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This is what Fearill looks like unaltered ==> Fae Princess
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post May 2 2008, 02:59 AM
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QUOTE (Gray @ May 1 2008, 07:51 PM) *
Do you man the Alice model or Fearill? Fearill is what I picture female elves to look like, only I made my render even skinner than the base as a nod to you (Fitness 1.0, Thin .5, Young .5) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Fearill, and yes, that's perfect.
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post May 2 2008, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ May 1 2008, 10:59 PM) *
Fearill, and yes, that's perfect.


Cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

What morphs did you use to get your female ork's teeth to stick out? For the male I just use the Ogre head and work backwards, but I can't get V4's lower teeth to stick out.
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QUOTE (swirler @ May 1 2008, 07:17 PM) *
lol
strangely enough though, she looks alot like I picture trid starlets in SR to look, more than slightly inhuman
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Yeah like some street doc did her plastic surgery... because the legit docs refuse to touch her any more.
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QUOTE (Gray @ May 1 2008, 08:06 PM) *
Cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

What morphs did you use to get your female ork's teeth to stick out? For the male I just use the Ogre head and work backwards, but I can't get V4's lower teeth to stick out.


Try these:

LipUpThin 1
LipLowOut 1
LipLowFull 1
LipLoLarge 1
MouthSmall -2
MouthNarrow -2
JawFull 1
MandiblSmall -0.5
ChinProtrude 1
TthLoWolf -1*
TthLoSharp -1*
TthLoHeight 3
TthLoWidth -2
TthLoDepth -2
TthLoBack -5.25
TthLoXRot 3.5

* these two do the magic, the rest just point them in the right direction and move the rest of the face to accomodate
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QUOTE (cryptoknight @ Apr 30 2008, 11:13 PM) *
Yah I keep looking at A4 and doing a double take... thinking she's actually a picture of somebody.

I like that... A4 is definately on my list... and the free hair rocks!

Anybody know where I can find a lot of free clothes? I'm looking for things like utility jumpsuits... not the skintight stuff.

Kind of like the picture on this book
http://www.amazon.com/Friday-Robert-Heinle...9985&sr=8-2


This suit may help you.

It is thight, but the zipper works.

(Used here zipped up though.)

Or this one: Trooper
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QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ May 2 2008, 12:30 PM) *
Try these:

LipUpThin 1
LipLowOut 1
LipLowFull 1
LipLoLarge 1
MouthSmall -2
MouthNarrow -2
JawFull 1
MandiblSmall -0.5
ChinProtrude 1
TthLoWolf -1*
TthLoSharp -1*
TthLoHeight 3
TthLoWidth -2
TthLoDepth -2
TthLoBack -5.25
TthLoXRot 3.5

* these two do the magic, the rest just point them in the right direction and move the rest of the face to accomodate


I did something similar, but then switched to a sized down set of horns, moved and parented to the mouth.
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post May 2 2008, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ May 2 2008, 05:30 AM) *
Try these:

LipUpThin 1
LipLowOut 1
LipLowFull 1
LipLoLarge 1
MouthSmall -2
MouthNarrow -2
JawFull 1
MandiblSmall -0.5
ChinProtrude 1
TthLoWolf -1*
TthLoSharp -1*
TthLoHeight 3
TthLoWidth -2
TthLoDepth -2
TthLoBack -5.25
TthLoXRot 3.5

* these two do the magic, the rest just point them in the right direction and move the rest of the face to accomodate

Thanks. I could get the the teeth pointy, but I couldn't get them to stick out over her lip. Interesting that you made TthLoWolf and TthLoSharp negative numbers, but that's how I get my big dwarf noses on M3 (NoseSmall -475% and NoseBig -250% are the base components)

Going to finish a male and female dwarf picture for tomorrow. I took your advice and made the male dwarf shorter (hobgoblin size morph instead of goblin) the limbs shorter , and the torso stockier and more heavily muscled (although probably not as heavy as you'd have done) on the male and he looks great. I also made his head bigger and his ears slightly pointed. I just need to find a good hairdo to match his beard. I have to make the female tonight.

QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ May 1 2008, 12:35 AM) *
Nice thighs and hips, but I think she should be a lot bustier. Ork females should scream "fertility".

I know that thematically they scream fertility (typical preganacy yields 4 babies), but practically I don't see an overly huge bosom on someone with the high muscle mass/low body fat ratio of an Ork. Especailly if they didn't have those 4 babies yet. Again just my take. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (Gray @ May 2 2008, 06:11 AM) *
Thanks. I could get the the teeth pointy, but I couldn't get them to stick out over her lip. Interesting that you made TthLoWolf and TthLoSharp negative numbers, but that's how I get my big dwarf noses on M3 (NoseSmall -475% and NoseBig -250% are the base components)

Going to finish a male and female dwarf picture for tomorrow. I took your advice and made the male dwarf shorter (hobgoblin size morph instead of goblin) the limbs shorter , and the torso stockier and more heavily muscled (although probably not as heavy as you'd have done) on the male and he looks great. I also made his head bigger and his ears slightly pointed. I just need to find a good hairdo to match his beard. I have to make the female tonight.


I know thematically they scream fertility, but practically I don't see an overly huge bosom on someone with the high muscle mass/low body fat ratio of an Ork. Again just my take. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Ah, but see, that's all the more reason to have an overly huge bosom - they need the mating display. Given their breeding habits, Orks should be rather more sexually dimorphic than humans, with a lot more secondary sexual display. I seem to remember reading that a lot of an Ork's negative modifiers to Logic and Charisma come from their bodies screaming with hormones - adrenaline, testosterone, and progesterone - and that ignoring their instinctual, neurochemical impulses can actually be painful for them. While not directly related to breast size, it certainly leads credence to the idea of Orks as symbols of potency and fertility, which should manifest in their physiology - both because form and function tend to be related, and because if Mana has anything to say about it, things will Tell their true Natures.

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QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ May 2 2008, 09:59 AM) *
Ah, but see, that's all the more reason to have an overly huge bosom - they need the mating display. Given their breeding habits, Orks should be rather more sexually dimorphic than humans, with a lot more secondary sexual display. I seem to remember reading that a lot of an Ork's negative modifiers to Logic and Charisma come from their bodies screaming with hormones - adrenaline, testosterone, and progesterone - and that ignoring their instinctual, neurochemical impulses can actually be painful for them. While not directly related to breast size, it certainly leads credence to the idea of Orks as symbols of potency and fertility, which should manifest in their physiology - both because form and function tend to be related, and because if Mana has anything to say about it, things will Tell their true Natures.

Ignoring Mana, which I concede can do whatever the it wants to do, the primary building block of big breasts is fatty tissue. And to account for the high mass of an ork a higher precentage of their make up is muscle as compared to a human. My female ork was certainly not flat chested, I just didn't add any morphs to the breasts other than the effects of the full body morphs Body Builder, Amazon, Fitness, Toned, and Voluptuous.

With all those hormones running around, who needs a big display to attract a mate? A charged up male ork would probably mate with any warm body, even a skiiny little elf, not that she'd sit still for it necessarily, but he still might try. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (Gray @ May 2 2008, 01:38 PM) *
With all those hormones running around, who needs a big display to attract a mate? A charged up male ork would probably mate with any warm body, even a skiiny little elf, not that she'd sit still for it necessarily, but he still might try. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Not to be a chauvinist, but female orks are also baby producing machines. Going back to the orcs & trolls looking like horrors out of mythology, I don't see them looking attractive either.
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QUOTE (Redjack @ May 2 2008, 02:51 PM) *
Not to be a chauvinist, but female orks are also baby producing machines. Going back to the orcs & trolls looking like horrors out of mythology, I don't see them looking attractive either.


Right and being that some of them used to be human. they might even repell their own kind.
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Here is my current WIP on Shadowrun races. Gray and I are very close. I still have a little work to do. I placed the elves, orks and humans all together. Wish I could find good lower fangs for the ork female. I used M3/V3 and the same MATs (one for males, one for females) for consistency across all three. I'll add trolls and dwarves next week. Gotta mod the skin textures on the troll for the dermal.
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QUOTE (Redjack @ May 2 2008, 06:07 PM) *
Wish I could find good lower fangs for the ork female.

Maybe one of these will help? ==> Millenium Teeth

Maybe turned upside down?
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There are some free items on DAZ. Days of Cider is free, but today is the last day, it's a scenery set, and Darcy for V4 is a character that is free until 5/13/2008.

Link to DAZ New 3D Models page
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