 Do Trolls belong in SR?, Offshoot from the troll heavy weapons |
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 Nov 30 2007, 04:11 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence  Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715  |
Now, in order to rule 34 something, do you actually have to search for and find content, or is it sufficient to speculate about the existence of such content since, having speculated about it, as per rule 34, it can now be safely assumed to exist? Is rule 34ing the finding of content, or is it the compulsory existence of content which comes with simply thinking of it? |
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Nov 30 2007, 04:36 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
i will now mention the fact that rule 34 has it's own page on teh intartswebs without mentioning the actual URL
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Nov 30 2007, 04:52 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Neither. Rule 34 is based on existence. ~J |
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Nov 30 2007, 05:00 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
What does that mean? I'm referring specifically to the verb form of "Rule 34", as used by hyzmarca. I understand what the rule itself means, I'm wondering what, exactly, is the process of "Rule 34ing." Is the verb form the process of verifying a specific example? |
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Nov 30 2007, 05:23 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The idea of "rule 34ing" something is paradoxical, except insofar as making something exist would force rule 34 to apply to it. Presumably hyzmarca is indicating that he has located or produced actual content demonstrating rule 34 with respect to the given item. It's a misleading phrase, but convenient.
~J |
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Nov 30 2007, 05:31 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Ahhh, the conversations of Dumpshock. :) Meanwhile...trolls. Trolls, um, belong in SR. Yeah. |
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Nov 30 2007, 09:03 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: 30-May 06 Member No.: 8,621 |
and apparently they belong here in dumpshock too. I mean, we have so many as is, how can they not belong? |
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Dec 1 2007, 12:55 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
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Dec 1 2007, 01:37 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
Female runner group in town
Different perspective The troll adept does not look that much bigger in those pics, though size stayed the same. |
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Dec 1 2007, 02:35 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
It'd help for perspective if the human (the only one we can relate to) wasn't crouched down in both pics.
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Dec 1 2007, 10:38 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
Well, that's why I had posted the lineup before, where one can compare the sizes directly. This is to illustrate that trolls may look smaller than they are. |
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Dec 1 2007, 11:07 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
As far as I know, you "rule 34 something" when you search for internet porn of it and find it. A confirmation of a secret wish or an illucid fear. However, I know some people use "rule 34" to simply make the statement that there is probably porn of whatever is being discussed. Still other theories indicate that the Matrix is such that merely discussing the posibility of type of porn existing on the internet creates a resonance structure which assures that it already exists. In any case, there actually is porn of Godzilla on the internets, so any definition Rule 34 is, in this context correct.
-Frank |
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Dec 2 2007, 02:36 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
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Dec 2 2007, 08:40 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
I've always preferred less cartoony orks and trolls. The ork action figure was what I'd consider the low point. Which what I like about these character models, even if it is just because you didn't have time to dermal and pustule out the trolls.
Attractive trolls? Hell, why not? Not every troll in the world has to be futtbugly. Maybe some are hot, and maybe some are born futtbugly and get an assload of cosmetic surgery for their bat mitzvah present. My next character just might be a troll with the human-looking quality. "I'm ten feet tall, bulletproof and I make it look good, chula." |
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Dec 2 2007, 08:44 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,883 Joined: 16-December 06 Member No.: 10,386 |
Well, trolls aren't eligible for human looking since it's about passing rather than being pretty. The whole ten feet tall thing tends to tip people off. There's nothing saying that a troll can't have first impression and be slick enough to make sure most people won't care though.
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Dec 2 2007, 09:17 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
Racist :D |
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Dec 2 2007, 09:46 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
To be fair, humans aren't allowed to be troll-looking, either. :P
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Dec 2 2007, 10:09 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
one COULD Argue with a pretty small Giant(Northern Europe Troll Variant)[why does america not get any troll variants but europe gets them all? O.o]. They look pretty much just like REALLY big Humans O.o
Nu Tusks, no Horns, no Dermal Problems, symmetric face and eyes and natural skin/eye-colour and everything . . |
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Dec 2 2007, 11:14 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
One could likewise argue that if a player can have pretty wide latitude in his or her character's appearance. A beautiful troll, a 7' tall human, a 5' tall ork; why bog down what is essentially a cosmetic/fluff/roleplaying decision?
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Dec 2 2007, 11:38 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,629 Joined: 14-December 06 Member No.: 10,361 |
Problem with those models is that the dwarf is a little grating. It's just a little person, which is fine for the gnome metavariant, but dwarves have shorter legs than humans and normal sized torsos. This is one I've always used, but it is much less slick. |
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Dec 3 2007, 12:14 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
I did shorten the legs of the dwarves, by about 20% compared to human proportions.
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Dec 3 2007, 02:14 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
These two aren't working for me this morning. Excellent work, Fuchs. I'll be using these :) |
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Dec 3 2007, 05:12 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Ditto. Bad linkage. Meanwhile, these are excellent. Really, really great work, all around. I really don't mind the attractiveness of the Ork, Troll, and Dwarf; up against the mountains of other hideous illustrations we have it's nice to see the cosmetically modified end of the spectrum.
I'm gonna go with this definition.
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Dec 3 2007, 06:45 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
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Dec 3 2007, 08:31 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Superb work. I should make these into a GM screen. I won't, because I'm busy and lazy, but I should.
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