 Corporate Enclaves preview, pdf preview uploaded to the SR4 website |
 Nov 15 2007, 01:21 PM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185  |
Adam's pretty swamped so I thought I might as well pimp this week's website update. Drop by and check out the 12 page advanced peek of the upcoming Corporate Enclaves book including the table of contents and samples from all the chapters.
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Nov 15 2007, 03:02 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
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Nov 15 2007, 04:19 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 |
Love the P2.0=Facebook thing.
LA looks like a perfect place to run a classic 80's style over substance campaign where runners not only all stand out like sore thumbs, they'll mug for the security camera's |
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Nov 15 2007, 04:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 3-May 06 From: On the Run Member No.: 8,521 |
I really like the P2.0 section from LA and the little preview of the Tokyo (no matter what I'll never call it Neo-Tokyo :P ) zoku.
From the limited excerpts from the Tokyo chapter - this sounds like it will really open up Japan for both high level runners and street level games. |
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Nov 15 2007, 04:54 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I...like what I see just fine, but don't really see anything that makes me want to go buy it. In this case, I'd say that surely has to do solely with the subject matter, and not the quality or presentation, though. To be honest, I'd honestly even forgotten a "Corporate Enclaves" book was on the way, I'd glossed over it so much.
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Nov 15 2007, 05:04 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 |
Yeah, a run to Japan can be a pretty cool climax to a campaign. I've never run a full campaign in Tokyo, mainly because I think it would be very difficult to pull off, without it just coming across as Seattle with different street names. I'm so used to the culture, politics, and general "tone" of Seattle that it's tough for me to keep from falling back on it when forced to ad-lib or come up with something on relatively short notice. I do really enjoy occasional jaunts to other plex's though. It can add a lot of spice if done right. You can focus on the broad stereotypes but still have it come across as cool and exotic. Meeting at bunraku parlours, different companies working as cops, ect. all adds a lot of cool factor but moderation has always been the key for me. |
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Nov 15 2007, 05:12 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 |
To be fair, I love the setting books as a general rule though. Even if you never run a campaign in the city, it's still cool to have PC's, NPC's and other bits of different parts of the world trickle in. The setting books, if nothing else give pretty cool character ideas and ways to offer glimpses into the broader world, which makes the entire campaign more convincing. For example. My current character is a combat hacker who literally stepped off the plane from Osaka and got his first glimpse of Seattle on the first session. Playing someone who grew up in a very traditional Japanese Yakuza clan is really fun. Since his clan was wiped out at the hands of a rival, and a traitor within he's made it his life's goal to hunt that traitor down. He's followed him to Seattle after undergoing that gene replacement therapy and so he's provided a lot of plot hooks too. Edit: Since the team is still to fresh on the street to have access to a resource like Shadowland (er jackpoint) he relies on his Osaka connections to get information that might otherwise be unaccessible. I try my best to put as many little quirks into him as possible that make him seem more "Japanese", a lot of it is stereotypes but it helps make him seem different in my mind at least. He never gets angry, always takes himself very seriously (well I got a little goofy on the last run but that might have been the cold medication), he's the sort of guy who'll apologize for shooting you if he has nothing against you personally. Would I want to run an entire campaign with characters like that? I don't really think so but he's fun for something exotic. |
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Nov 15 2007, 05:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 3-May 06 From: On the Run Member No.: 8,521 |
Oh I ran a street level game in Tokyo earlier this year... It sounds like this might burst the seems of the Tokyo open even more than I did for that game though.
I'm really interested in Corporate Enclaves seeing as I've already run a game there and I want to see how some of the changes I've made will integrate with the official setting and to strip mine for ideas. |
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Nov 15 2007, 06:35 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...so, when does the PDF come out? :grinbig:
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Nov 15 2007, 06:54 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 |
Yah. *bangs his plate on the table* |
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Nov 15 2007, 07:23 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
P - D - F!
P - D - F! P - D - F! P - D - F! P - D - F! :D |
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Nov 15 2007, 07:24 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
Judging by recent releases, almost certainly within the next week, and possibly tomorrow. |
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Nov 15 2007, 07:27 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 |
But I have today off. :-( :notworthy: |
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Nov 15 2007, 08:37 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 9-November 07 Member No.: 14,105 |
Should be interesting, I've been working a bit on house rules for the UNL, some current (4e/2070) info on Europort should help quite a bit.
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Nov 15 2007, 11:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 640 Joined: 8-October 07 Member No.: 13,611 |
Oh, lord. Los Angeles is the new Caribbean? Awesome...
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Nov 16 2007, 12:17 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 246 Joined: 26-January 06 Member No.: 8,198 |
Los Angeles? I thought it was going to be Las Vegas!
Meh, Las Vegas would have made more sense as a corporate town anyhow, with the 'casino corps' and all. I'm not trying to nay-say the book, but Los Angeles storyline is far from par and looking to be the Seattle of Runner Havens, while Neo-Tokyo looks to be the Hong Kong. Anyone else notice this trend? |
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Nov 16 2007, 01:58 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
corporate enclaves has NERPS =)
that's all you need to know ;) |
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Nov 16 2007, 01:58 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Hah! Seven-7, you have no idea how completely backwards that statement is.
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Nov 16 2007, 07:41 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
You're not really selling the book there AH. I know a lot of people (myself included) were really looking forward to the Nippon section because it has always been an important part of the setting but it's never been really well described. A good in-depth loction section on the second largest sprawl on the planet was really needed. If you're telling me that it looks like a commitee phoned it in that would make me sad. Meanwhile I don't really think that the LA storyline is salvageable. It was dumb and perplexing back in CFS and every time it has been revisited in any way it has gotten astoundingly worse. YotC was confusing and retarded. The SR4 main book's take was world destroying, and the blurb in Street Magic was even worse. The LA section could be made out of liquid gold by a master crafter and it would still slump over because a foundation of shit simply cannot hold. So if you're telling me that the setting which is just kind of "meh" and exists mostly to fill page count is the one which had unlimited possibility, and the one which is inspired and well focused is the one which is already constrained by a backstory so bad that it creates a palpable miasma that taints and corrodes the rest of the setting - then you're making me very very sad. -Frank |
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Nov 16 2007, 07:59 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Don't forget, he was being condescending and rude to a customer while explaining that, too. But no one really cares about that sort of thing, it's just the interwebs.
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Nov 16 2007, 02:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 28-May 03 From: Orlando Member No.: 4,644 |
I just wish I could get something on London. I am basing my current group there. Any help on this? I cannot find the old London sourcebook, but that is woefully out of date I would imagine. I do have SoE, and that section is great, but not enough detail. Any hope on the Horizon in this area?
On a side note: KK I thought I remembered that your current campaign is in the UK, any tips? |
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Nov 16 2007, 02:21 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
I'm not really sure what AH was trying to say, but I don't think I agree with it. But really, I'll leave it up to the readers to decide how they feel about Neo-Tokyo, Los Angeles, etc. I'm not about to try to color anyone's feelings on any section before the book is even out for them to read.
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Nov 16 2007, 05:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 3-May 06 From: On the Run Member No.: 8,521 |
Hey Demonseed...
After looking at the TOC I'm hoping you can confirm you included at least something about the Triads and Vory in the "Free Agents" portion of the Underworld section. Though I think I would of preferred them to be in a "Other minor mobs" instead of a Free Agents section..... Especially after the mention (in SoA) about them finally sneaking into the Tokyo underworld thanks to the destabilization from the RoF Eruption. |
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Nov 16 2007, 05:43 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
I didn't write that chapter of the Neo-Tokyo section, so I can't really comment on what is in it. Sorry!
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Nov 16 2007, 05:54 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 3-May 06 From: On the Run Member No.: 8,521 |
Aaaaargh.
No problem, I know I'm buying the darn book once its available - but that chapter along with the Nerve Centers chapter and Maps are really the only things I'm interested in. :P |
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