 Underground Temple Carved Out of Italian Hills |
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 Nov 24 2007, 07:06 PM
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King of the Hobos  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127  |
Someone posted this newspaper article to the Delta Green mailing list that I'm a member of and I figured since it has a fairly heavy Shadowrun slant I'd share it over here.
Just take a look at the pictures from the article, some of the architecture and art work is stunning. And some of it is less than impressive but whatever. Gives you something of an idea of what coming accross an old Kaer might look like. That or base of operations for cult/secret group of choice. :) |
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Nov 24 2007, 11:36 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,629 Joined: 14-December 06 Member No.: 10,361 |
Just wondering, what exactly is a "Kaer"? It's been mentioned a few times recently on DS and I haven't seen it in any of my books.
Pretty amazing place, sometimes a little gaudy, but the attention to detail is pretty great. If it's underground, could you still conduct a ritual sending in there? |
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Nov 24 2007, 11:40 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
it's something like a magically shielded against magical stuff bunker against the horrors from EarthDawn in which, supposedly, the elite of the races lived through the scourge . .
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Nov 25 2007, 12:12 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,629 Joined: 14-December 06 Member No.: 10,361 |
So the Blood Wood wasn't a Kaer then?
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Nov 25 2007, 12:24 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
nah, the blood wood was an ritual which made elves sprout thorns and feeling an awfull pain all the time to make them as undesireable as a host for a horror as inhumanly possible, if i remember correctly *g*
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Nov 25 2007, 02:40 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Yes and no. The Theran Empire, default bad guys in Earthdawn, had the monopoly on secret formula to build kaers and wouldn't share it with other countries unless they bent the knee and recognised them as their evil overlord. Sitting there with a metric ass-tonne of Horrors about to come charging over the hill and do all manner of nastiness to them in the near future most people sat there thinking "Go along with the arseholes, Horrors killing everyone and doing unspeakable nasties with my innards, go along with the arseholes, Horrors... You've got yourself a vassal state mate, now hand over the formula." The elves though got a bit uppity, as they do, and wouldn't deal with the Therans. They decided to take a stab at building one themselves without Theran help and turned the wood where they lived into a living kaer. Great idea grass cuttings for brains. Anyway, the Horrors make their long awaited appearance and lay waste to the world causing destruction on an epic scale in front of them. Think Royal Navy crew putting in for shore leave after the ships been out for five/six months. After a while the elves notice that their wooden kaer is working about as well as a chocolate teapot and starting to fail with the Horrors slowly trying to work their way through the ever growing holes in their defences. People get a tad upset at this so there's a big pow wow up at the palace to try and figure how to unfuck everything. The best idea that they can come up with though is that Horrors are only able to feed on the pain and suffering that they themselves inflict. "Bobs your uncle then" goes the eleven court and the queen, Alachia IIRC, decided to take drastic measures. They do a lot of mumbo jumbo and the big ritual spell grafts the Pattern of some kind of thorny plant onto the Pattern of the elves so that they gets all these bloody thorn sprouting out of their bodies kind of like eczema on crack. Since they're in constant pain from the thorns the Horrors take one look at them an go "Oi! That's cheating! Bastards. Bugger this if there's nothing decent to eat around here then" and go off to find some other poor sod to devour. The day is saved but everyone and their kids gets to around looking like a weird kind of walking rose and can't go five minutes without ripping a shirt. Alachia's response to it all appears to be "Well that's that settle then. What? It's not like it was my fault for being a prideful idiot or anything. Well not if you want to keep your head on your shoulders mate. Who's queen?" |
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Nov 25 2007, 02:46 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
Best. Summary. Ever. :) |
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Nov 25 2007, 04:09 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
There's something similar, but not so grand outside of Edinburgh. Thought to have been maybe made by free masons or the Hellfire club they were most likely just later tennants. The stone walls and pillars in the scottish system look almost organic, like it was grown rather than carved.
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Nov 26 2007, 02:56 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
The History Channel's Lost Cities of the Underworld has some good stuff along this line. Edinburgh, New York, Paris, Naples, Rome I know they covered, and there were more I didn't catch. If they didn't cover Seattle, that was one hell of a missed opportunity for us.
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Nov 26 2007, 03:13 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
That was where I got the Edinburgh stuff. I think they did the undercity in Seattle. That was a little different though because it was never lost. just built over.
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Nov 26 2007, 10:21 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
As far as i know, both Hamburg and Berlin have such an underworld too . . and berlin even has an overworld kind of . . if i remember correctly, you can cross most of berlin without ever going up to street-level and you cann cross parts of Berlin, without ever having to go DOWN to street level O.o . . and of course, Russia's Cities have such things too . . most cities of the modern world do i believe *g*
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Nov 26 2007, 03:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
I saw something on Berlin on TV. It might have been lost cities. It said most of Berlin is built on swampy ground. Tunnels built under it have problems with seepage, but there are massive underground rooms and road ways set up as shelters during the war.
I think most people here are talking about much older ruins. |
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Nov 26 2007, 03:19 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Never mind the underground underground rooms or roadways, how about owning your very own bunker? Perfect for today's paranoid recluse. :)
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Nov 26 2007, 03:29 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I wouldn't call a pent-house anything a bunker.
That said, there are plenty of companies which now offer custom made and pre-fab underground bunkers for the 'average' person ('average' being a person with an average salary, but the desire to have an underground bunker he can live in). |
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Nov 26 2007, 03:48 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
From what I've been able to understand from a couple of other German sites it looks as though the penthouse bit was built more on top of the bunker as opposed to renovating the top floor so best of both worlds.
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Nov 27 2007, 03:48 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
I always wondered where those James Bond villains got their bases. |
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