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[Jaid]

well, first off, any hacker this guy is giving a run for their money is pretty sad.

secondly, infirm may as well have written beside it "if you chose this quality you fail at shadowrun. put down your character sheet and back away from the rulebook, and ask someone else to design your character for you". (note that you cannot default on swimming, climbing, jumping, running (faster than base speed, that is) disguise, palming, infiltration, and escape artist (and a few others). this is deadly. the only way to not be dead from this NQ is to spend more BP taking 1 point in all those skills than you got from the quality in the first place.)

[Jaid]

ok, here's my TM. min/maxed like crazy, but i assume that honestly, that's the intention. if your TM isn't min/maxed like crazy, then you are seriously paying a ton more to suck more than the hacker at being a hacker, and that just doesn't make sense. extensive use of threading and sprites will be needed.

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Human Technomancer

Stats: (160 BP, +10 edge, +65 resonance = 235)
Bod: 3
Agi: 2
Rea: 2
Str: 1
Cha: 4
Int: 4
Log: 4
Wil: 4
Edg: 3
Res: 6

Essence: 6.00
Initiative: 6 (VR 9)
IPs: 1 (VR 3)
Physical Track: 10
Stun Track: 11

Active Skills: 130 BP

Pistols 1(semiauto +2)
Dodge 1(ranged +2)
Cracking: 4
Electronics: 4
Compiling: 5(Machine Sprites +2)
Registering: 4
Etiquette: 1
Con: 1
Perception: 1

Knowledge Skills: (24 BP free)

Corporate Matrix Security 3
Technomancer Groups 4
Former Otaku 2
Ghosts in the Machine 3
Data Havens 3
Matrix Hangouts 2
Matrix Games 2
Simsense Technology 5

English N

Qualities: -30 BP
Technomancer (5 BP)
Addiction(cram, moderate?) (-10 BP)
Allergy, Sunlight (common, mild) (-10 BP)
Sensitive System (-15 BP)

Complex Forms: 42 BP
Armor 6
Analyze 6
Spoof 6
Attack 6
Stealth 6
Exploit 6
Edit 6

Biofeedback Filter: 4

Contacts: 9 BP
TM Tribe leader L3 C 2
Fixer L1 C3

Resources: 8 BP (40,000)

(pick up a couple of drones at least, basic weapons/armor (now that you can wear 6 points without suffering penalties to everything), some perception enhancers, etc. your living persona is pretty terrible, so be careful until you've got some karma under your belt to boost it up, and use sprites and threading to cover the complex forms you don't have. if at all possible, keep a machine sprite friend in a drone nearby at all times)

for your reference, a list of CFs by sprite that you don't have.
Courier Sprites: come with Encrypt and Track, can learn Decrypt, Browse, Command, and Scan
Crack Sprites: come with nothing, can learn Defuse and Scan
Data Sprites: come with Browse, can learn Defuse, Encrypt, Sniffer, and any Linguasoft
Fault Sprites: come with nothing, can learn Black Hammer, Blackout, Medic
Machine Sprites: come with command, can learn Decrypt, Medic, and any Autosoft

you cannot get: Data Bomb, Reality Filter, ECCM.

not particularly rounded out at all as you can see, but that's how i figure it's intended. TMs are pretty clearly pure matrix specialists imo.

[edit] hmmm... appears to take up quite a bit of room, so i spoiler'd it =P [/edit

This post has been edited by Jaid: Jan 6 2008, 04:01 AM

[Sponge]

[toturi]

[Cain]

[Cthulhudreams]

Or just cheese out and take Allergy, moderate, Gold/Nickel Alloys, and Allergy, Moderate, Silver or garlic, or something. A pair of them is vastly less crippling for the character and gives the same points.

[Fortune]

[Ryu]

Off-Topic, but you could add up the karma+BP(*2) invested into the double-cost part, automatically removing the disadvantage once 40 karma are reached. You get firm by training and smart by learning.

Now what is left to do? Do we get (or want to make) chars using street magic and augmentation?

[crash2029]

Do y'all think that an assassin would be a good starting archetype? I recently created one.

[Stahlseele]

as a player character sure . . not so much in the archetype kind of way, ture, but hell, most players end up doing his job at least once most of the time *g*

[Kyoto Kid]

[X-Kalibur]

Makes me want to take a nice big stab at a Sharpshooter character. But I'd be tempted to do weird things like give them a Math SPU so that they could more easily calculate bullet drop and the like. And thus, realism bleeds in, heh.

[Stahlseele]

heh, i know what you mean . . every time i build an archer that is NOT an adept i put into his eye range-finder and a math SPU into his head for simple ballistics *g*
btw, why is there no sample character street thief/trick-thief or Breaking and Entering Specialist(Catburgler)

[Kyoto Kid]

..give me a bit of time on the Street Kid/Trick Thief. I have the perfect example in "Da Brat" (#88). At work right now and don't have my character files available.

Yeah, she's an adept (low MA) but with a few tricks up her sleeves.

[Stahlseele]

*snaps fingers*
i remember you mentioning something like that now . . good, in your hands it will probably be a decent choice for beginners . .

[crash2029]

okay here goes

[ Spoiler ]

point breakdown
attributes: 220
skills: 150
qualities: -15
gear: 37
contacts: 8

Attributes
Bod: 3 Cha: 3 Edge: 4
Agi: 4 (6) Int: 4 Essence: 3.35
Rea: 4 (5) Log: 3
Str: 3 (4) Wil: 4

Skills
firearms SG 4
athletics SG 2
influence SG 2
infiltration 4
disguise 3
perception 3
unarmed combat (subdual combat) 2
blades (knives) 1
first aid 1
hardware (maglocks) 2

Knowledge Skills 21 free BP
security procedures 2
security systems 4
black markets 2
current events 2
gambling card games 2
japanese 3
arabic 3
german 3
english N

Contacts
fixer (L1/C3)
street doc (L2/C2)

Qualities
sensitive system

Implants
commlink (4/4)
datajack muscle aug 1
sim module muscle toner 2
cybereyes 2 synaptic booster 1
-flare comp
-low light
-smartlink
-vis mag
internal air tank

Commlink
response 4 system 4
signal 4 firewall 6
stealth 4

Weapons
survival knife, ares predator IV (w/conc holster, silencer, 2 spare clips, 50 rounds regular), hk227x (w/gas vent 3, 2 spare clips, 100 rounds regular), ruger 100 (w/int smartlink, silent, 20 regular rounds), streetline special (w/conc holster, 20 rounds stick n shock), flash pak

Armor
armor vest, camouflage suit (w/thermal dampening 4), helmet

Gear
fake license [concealed carry/4], handcuffs, flexcuffs [x10], autopicker [6], handheld sensor [radio scanner 6, olfactory 6, cyberware scanner 6], keycard copier [6], maglock passkey [4], miniwelder, sequencer [4], wire clippers, flashlight, gecko tape gloves, GPS, rappelling gloves, grapple gun, microwire [200m], glue sprayer, syringe w/narcojet, medkit [6], stimpatch [4/x2], trauma patch, latex face mask [x4], fake SIN [4], clothing [regular/chic], skinlink, electronic paper, tag eraser, stealth rfid tags [x60], white noise gen [4], sony emperor commlink w/renraku ichi OS, middle lifestyle 1 month

Vehicles & Drones
mercury comet
mitsubishi fly spy

Starting Nuyen: (4d6+12)100

In a stand up fight the assassin is better at range. However a stand up fight is not what the assassin prefers. In ranged combat he uses 10 dice plus addons. In melee he only uses 7 or 8 dice. A preferred strategy to subdue guards is to use infiltration or influence skills to get near the guard then use subdual combat to silence the guard and follow that up with a narcojet syringe. For other ways around or through targets and obstacles be creative. Athletic skills, influence skills, gun skills, use your imagination and you'll have your GM cowed in no time.

[Kyoto Kid]

...I'll try to post the Street Kid tonight. Couldn't get to a hotspot last night (don't care to sell my soul for the next couple years to the likes of BomBast or Horiz- er- Verizon). :grinbig:

[Whipstitch]

Eh, don't you guys think that an Assassin would rather overlap with the Covert Ops archetype (which has been tweaked, thanks KK) I already posted in the community projects thread?I mean, no offense but I already made a character with essentially the same skillset, although yours has more initiative passes and points spent on firearms while mine has more points spent on athletics, social and infiltration skills.

[X-Kalibur]

I honestly thought it felt very generalized for an assassin, but then, I'm a weirdo.

[Ryu]

Ork Street Ganger pic

I got my gf to colour a short sketch for me :love:

[Glyph]

One of the contacts I always liked was the elven hitman, the "quintessential gentleman-assassin". I tried to do this guy less as a B&E type, and more as someone focused on sneaking and killing people.

This is the archetypical action movie hitman. :D

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Elven Hitman

BREAKDOWN (400 Points)
Core Attributes: 190
Special Attributes: 20
Race: 30 (Elf)
Active Skills: 140
Qualities: +10
Contacts: 5
Resources: 25

=Attributes=
Body: 4
Agility: 6 [8]
Reaction: 5 [7]
Strength: 3
Charisma: 3
Intuition: 3
Logic: 3
Willpower: 3
Edge: 3

Essence: 2.00
Initiative: 10
Initiative Passes: 3
Physical Damage Track: 10
Stun Track: 10

Current Karma: 0
Total Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Noteriety: 0
Public Awareness: 0

=Qualities=
Allergy: Silver, Mild
Ambidexterity
Sensitive Neural Structure
Weak Immune System

=Active Skills=
Gymnastics: 3
Intimidation: 3
Longarms/Sniper Rifles: 4/+2
Monofilament Whip: 6
Negotiation: 2
Perception: 3
Pilot Ground Craft: 2
Pistols: 4
Stealth Skill Group: 3

=Knowledge Skills=
Languages>
English: N
Sperethiel: 3

Other>
Classical Music: 2
Corporate Politics: 3
Elven Wines: 2
Philosophy: 3
Poetry: 2
Safe Houses: 3

=Cyberware=
Cybereyes II with:
>Flare Compensation
>Low-Light Vision
>Protective Covers (Mirrorshades)
>Smartlink
>Vision Magnification
Fingertip Compartment
-with Monofilament Whip
Ultrasound Sensor
Wired Reflexes: 2

=Bioware=
Muscle Toner: 2

=Contacts=
Fixer (Connection: 3/Loyalty: 2)

=Lifestyle=
High (1 Month prepaid)
Starting Money: (4d6 x 500) + 6,000 Nuyen

=Equipment=
ID/Credsticks:
Fake SIN (Rating: 4), Fake Gun Registration (Rating: 4), Fake Concealed Carry Permit (Rating: 4), 2 Fake Cyberware and 1 Fake Bioware Permits (Rating: 4 each), Fake Drivers License (Rating: 4), 4 Certified Credsticks.

DocWagon Contract: Basic (1 Year).

Vehicle: Suzuki Mirage racing bike.

Weapons:
>Hamerli 620S with skinlink modification, hidden gun arm slide, silencer, and 20 clips of regular ammo.
>Walther MA2100 with skinlink modification, Silencer, and 100 rounds of regular ammo.

Armor/Clothing:
Chameleon suit with thermal dampening: 6; Lined Coat, Armor Vest, 2,500 Nuyen worth of assorted clothing.

Commlink/Software/Simsense:
Novatech Airware Commlink with ISIS Orb OS, skinlink, sim module, trodes, and subvocal mic; programs - browse: 3, edit: 3, and encrypt: 3; 1-Rating: 6 mapsoft (Seattle metroplex); 1 - Rating: 6 datasoft (Sun Tzu's 'The Art of War' with commentaries); 4-Rating: 3 linguasofts (Chinese, French, Japanese, and Korean), Virtual Surround Music.

Other:
Duffel bag (100 Nuyen cost), Medkit (Rating: 6) with 3 refills, 3 small nanopaste disuise containers.

[Kyoto Kid]

...OK here she is...better late than never I guess

The Street Kid Trickster (Adept)

"nothin' up mah sleeve home, cept maybe this big ol' nasty Predator."

[ Spoiler ]

Street Kid/Trickster Thief Adept [400 BP]
Metatype: Human [0bp]

Standard Attributes [190 BP]
Body 4
Agility 5
Reaction 3 (4)
Strength 3
Charisma 3
Intuition 4
Logic 2
Willpower 3

Figured Attributes
Initiative 8
Stun Track 10
Physical Track 10

Special Attributes [50 BP]
Magic 5
Edge 3

Positive Qualities [-15 BP]
Adept 5
First Impression 5
Double Jointed 5

Negative Qualities [+35 BP]
Uneducated 20
Mild Allergy to Rats 10
Mild Kleptomania 5

Active Skills [162 BP]
Stealth Group 4
(Palming Improved Ability) 4 (5)
Pistols 3 (Semi Automatic +2)
Unarmed Combat 3 (Dirty Fighting +2)
Con 4 (Fast Talk +2)
Etiquette 4 (Street +2)
Escape Artist 3 (Grappling +2)
Gymnastics 3 (Tumbling +2)
Running 2 (Urban +2)
Perception 3
Survival 2 (Urban +4)

Knowledge [18 free points]
(St) Gang ID 4
(St) Gang Turf 4
(St) Local Area Knowledge 3
(St) Safehouses 3
(In) Con Games 4

Languages
English N

Adept Powers (5 PP)

Critical Strike 2
Combat Sense 2
Enhanced Perception 2
Improved Ability +1 (Palming)
Nimble Fingers
Improved Reflexes 1
Voice Control

Contacts (12BP)
Fixer C3/L3
Gang Leader C2/L4

Resources 20,000 (4 BP)

Lifestyle: Squatter 2 mo. Prepaid

Weapons:
Ares Predator IV
Fichetti Security (SV)
Shock Glove

Accessories:
Quick Draw Holster
Hidden Arm Gun Slide

Ammo:
EX Explosive Rounds 30 (for Predator)
Stick & Shock Rounds 60 (For Fichetti)
Regular Rounds 60 (for Predator)

Armour:
Armoured Jacket 8/6 with Chem Protection 3
Shock Frills

Gear:
Fake SIN 4
Fake SIN 3 (2)
Sport Goggles
+Smartlink
+Image Link
+Skinlink
Contacts
+Low Light
+Flare Comp
Earbuds
+Audio Enhancement III
Rollerblades
Skateboard
Disguise Kit
Gas Mask
Fake License 4
Assorted Music Chips
Autopicker 4


Commlink
Sony Emperor Res 2/Sig 3
OS
Renraku Ichi (Upgraded Firewall) Sys2/FW 3

For The Street Kid Trickster, the streets and shadows are all she really knows having been orphaned at a young age. Her schooling didn't come from a TutorSoft, but instead from the hard cold realities of the streets. It has made her tough, scrappy and above all, resourceful. She can tell you who's who in the 'hood, where to go and where not to go, and where you can jam out for a while to shake the heat. The kid is a competent fighter who is not above dealing a low blow or two if it is to her advantage. She is also a slick talker and one smooth little operator who takes great pleasure in pulling one over on a mark whenever possible. One warning, keep an eye on your gear when she's around.

The Street Kid does have make use of two sourcebooks Augmented (for the Kleptomania) and Street Magic (for the nimble fingers power) because they fit her concept all too well.

[Fortune]

I'd never allow people (except maybe trolls) to use a Predator (or any other heavy pistol) in a hidden arm slide up their sleeve in my games.

[Kyoto Kid]

[Fortune]

Shrug. A heavy pistol is a heavy pistol as far as I am concerned, and in my opinion they are all way too big (and heavy) to utilize the arm slide. Keep in mind that the Predator is roughly the size of a Desert Eagle.

Besides, I wasn't commenting on canon, but on my opinion as to what I would allow (through my own warped common sense) in my own games. Canon has numerous examples where it seems common sense is thrown out the window when sweeping statements are made, such as fitting a pistol-sized weapon, which to some people's minds means a machine pistol.

But strictly by canon, it does not state that it fits all pistols, but merely that pistol-sized weapons will fit. Pistols do vary widely in size, and I believe that I am still following canon if I rule that heavy pistols cannot be used in arm slides (except maybe by trolls).