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post Jan 3 2008, 06:57 PM
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China may have a far larger population than they have now (even after VITAS), less arable land, and more interest in meat, milk and so on, driving up demand.

I know what you are trying to say and I do not mean to knick-pick but most asians are lactose intollerant.
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post Jan 3 2008, 07:03 PM
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Then how do you explain the recent rise in milk prices domestically?
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post Jan 3 2008, 07:32 PM
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Then how do you explain the recent rise in milk prices domestically?

The cows are on strike.
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post Jan 3 2008, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Jan 3 2008, 01:57 PM)
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China may have a far larger population than they have now (even after VITAS), less arable land, and more interest in meat, milk and so on, driving up demand.

I know what you are trying to say and I do not mean to knick-pick but most asians are lactose intollerant.

While we're at it, it's "nitpick", not "knick pick". A "nit" is the egg of a louse (as in, head lice, or other similar parasites), which is where the expression comes from.
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post Jan 4 2008, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE (Critias)
QUOTE (nezumi @ Jan 3 2008, 02:03 PM)
Then how do you explain the recent rise in milk prices domestically?

The cows are on strike.

Beyond the cow strike conspiracy theory, I blame it on transportation costs which went up with the price of diesel fuel. The high cost of fuel/transportation is making its way through much of the economy.
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post Jan 4 2008, 02:53 AM
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Yeah but demand for milk has shot up everywhere.

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But the biggest force driving up milk prices is the same one that has driven up prices for conventional commodities like iron ore and copper: a roaring global economy. Rising incomes in emerging economies from China and India to Latin America and the Middle East are lifting millions of people out of poverty and into the middle class.

It turns out that, along with zippy cars and flat-panel TVs, milk is the mark of new money, a significant source of protein that factors into much of any affluent person’s diet. Milk goes into infant formulas, chocolate, ice cream and cheese. Most baked goods contain butter, and coffee chains like Starbucks sell more milk than coffee.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/04/business...ess/04milk.html

Maybe they arn't drinking it - but they are definitely eating it, and not just china.

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post Jan 4 2008, 02:50 PM
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Also something I thought of this morning - ethanol. Everyone should know by now if we turned all of COUSA into a giant cornfield, it still wouldn't provide enough ethanol to power all of our cars. However a huge number of cars in Shadowrun appear to be ethanol powered. Since we're not assuming they figured out that neat bacteria they're trying to make which would produce more sugar than sugar cane, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume the drive for ethanol has driven up the cost of any product which requires corn land to grow.
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post Jan 7 2008, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)
QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Jan 3 2008, 01:57 PM)
QUOTE (nezumi @ Jan 3 2008, 10:41 AM)
China may have a far larger population than they have now (even after VITAS), less arable land, and more interest in meat, milk and so on, driving up demand.

I know what you are trying to say and I do not mean to knick-pick but most asians are lactose intollerant.

While we're at it, it's "nitpick", not "knick pick". A "nit" is the egg of a louse (as in, head lice, or other similar parasites), which is where the expression comes from.

To defend my friend, "knick pick" refers to the New York Knicks. A professional basketball team that has a real problem with winning and rather than facing the real issues, they try to pick at silly things and blame them for their problems.

For example: recently the coach blamed the fans for the losing streak saying "The 6th man isn't there for us." This led to at least one commentator declared "That's ok they also don't have the 3rd, 4th or 5th man either."

Don't worry about not being up to date on slang. Just hang out here and you'll soon get up to speed. ;)
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post Jan 7 2008, 12:53 PM
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Funny, but Google doesn't seem to think 'Knick Pick' is all that common a saying, let alone an up-and-coming catch-phrase for anything other than a basketball draft choice.

I'll admit that I found a few instances where people have erroneously used 'knick pick' when they do in fact mean nit pick (since that is the proper catch-phrase), but rarely without correction.
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post Jan 7 2008, 01:07 PM
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Since I love to cook I'll lean in on this. Remember that with the population being decimated world wide, there would be fewer drivers too. Also while Africa or Asia may , or may not, be over populated there might be little desire to sell grain there to feed the masses than to provide for the market here. Besides pinkskin farmers I imagine NAN farmers might get a kick out of selling their grain to the UCAS and CAS, sort of getting more pay back from the white man.

I don't think there's a market for a Shadows of Africa SB it might be interesting to see what happens in areas that currently have good soil but poor organization. Zimbabwe strings to mind. Once the bread basket of southern Africa mismanagment by Mugabe has destroyed the nation BUT the soil is still viable. I'm sure either an open corp take over or just a show of 'native ownership' in a well bribing shell company could exploit this terrain for more crops.

The old bestiaries do raise ideas. Are seafood too contaminated to eat or are the a bounty? A 100 kg lobster? Think of the King Crab legs! Talk about The Most Dangeorus Catch.
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post Jan 7 2008, 02:36 PM
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BUT the soil is still viable

Maybe I'm a pessimist, but we'll see how long that lasts. I don't know whether the SR timeline or the RL timeline will void that statement first, but mankind has a remarkable propensity for ruining things.

And I still think the most dangerous catch is a shaman. Cybertrolls might come in second, but something big and shooty is more predictable than a dude in a war mask summoning god knows what or casting god knows what.
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post Jan 8 2008, 02:16 PM
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And I still think the most dangerous catch is a shaman. Cybertrolls might come in second, but something big and shooty is more predictable than a dude in a war mask summoning god knows what or casting god knows what.
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Make that Killer Whale Shape Shifter Shaman. Exactly what you didn't want to catch.

Although, I do have a soft spot for chipped sharks. They are probably also really Bad News when your out on the ocean.
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post Jan 8 2008, 03:24 PM
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They're even worse news when you're in your bathtub!!!

The Most Dangerous catch is a reference, maybe a misnamed one, to a reality show on the discovery channel that puts camera crews on ships of the Alaska fishing fleet. For a reality show it's refreshing in that it is not blandly beautiful people trying to become famous/find love/get a job/out think etc competition.

This job is dangerous enough when you are just hauling up modern Alaska King Crab.
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post Jan 8 2008, 03:39 PM
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...had a couple friends work the fishing fleets in summer (if that is what you call it up in the gulf of Alaska and Aleutians). While I haven't seen this programme, I have seen others about Alaskan fishing on the Discovery and Learning Channels and they are pretty dead on. It was great for my friends as this was the way they put themselves through school without the need of grants or loans (rare in this day & age). When you're up there you're on the boat almost all the time so there's little to spend your hard (and I do mean hard) earned wages on.

They also came back in pretty good physical shape as well. One thing though, I wouldn't think of taking them to a seafood house for dinner nor invite them over for fish after they got back. :grinbig:
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