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Wounded Ronin
post Dec 22 2007, 06:07 AM
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After spending the last 6 years with a machine that had 256 megs of ram, I just plopped down 1,300 dollars for a custom machine built for longevity and moderate gaming.

Assuming that I can run any game from today and going backwards, which ones are the most highly recommended? I've gotten excellent recommendations from DSF in the past, including Freedom Force, Deus Ex, and Jagged Alliance 2.

My all time favorite genre is first person shooters. I really love military sims like Rainbow Six, America's Army and Soldier of Fortune II. However, I've also enjoyed quality FPS titles such a No One Lives Forever 1 and 2, and Deus Ex.

I also like RPGs. I really enjoyed Planescape: Torment. I haven't tried Baldur's Gate yet. I'm a big fan of retrogaming and really liked Fallout, and even made a relatively simple mod for Fallout 2.

Thanks in advance! I've always gotten such great advice from my fellow gaming enthusiasts here. :cyber:
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post Dec 22 2007, 06:51 AM
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I was a big fan of F.E.A.R., though I can't speak for the expansions. Everything just feels good—enough so that I played through the demo alone upwards of twenty times, just varying how aggressively or cautiously I advanced and with what weapons I did so.

(On the topic of "how big a fan", it's the only game that has gotten me to break my otherwise-absolute boycott of games targeted at Windows.)

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post Dec 22 2007, 09:51 AM
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I...can't help but see a lack of Ghost Recon in your initial post (for a supposed fan of realistic FPS games).
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post Dec 22 2007, 03:47 PM
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F.E.A.R, Max Payne 2, Rainbow Six : Vegas is a credit to the license, The last couple of Splinter Cells have been pretty damned good. Team Fortress 2 is a really fun wacky FPS- not militarily realistic like you seem to like, but fun nonetheless.

That's about it for now, if I can think of others I'll post them later. How do you feal about RTS games?


Critias, Ghost Recon games are, if I remember correctly, third-person military shooters, not first,

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post Dec 22 2007, 03:48 PM
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Half-Life.

Which one? all of them.

Ghost Recon and Splinter Cell aren't too bad.

I like the later Recons because the command interface is greatly improved.

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post Dec 22 2007, 10:20 PM
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Most of the game I play tend to be at least 5 years old. So I hope you don't mind getting recommendations about game older than 5 years.

*look at his games*

If you liked Jagged Alliance 2 (hope you played the 1st one too), you might like to try Brigade E5 : New Jagged Union. I couldn't try the full game, but the demo was interesting, especially with the time-based system (instead of a turn/action point system) even if it was a bit hard to get into it. But sadly, as most of these russian JA-like games (such as COPS:2170, for example), it has an unpolished feel.

Mount&Blade is a really interesting indie game. It's a mix between a RPG and a medieval FPS/TPS. Think Pirates! or Elite in a medieval (not fantasy, even if fictional) setting. It's done a lot of progress since I bought it, and it has a good community support with some quality mods.

Star Wars Jedi Outcast was good. Jedi Academy's single player campaign was quite bad but it added dual saber and staff saber. There are a few real good community made single player campaigns, though.

SWAT3/4 are excellent tactical shooters. They are a bit like Rainbow 6, but much closer to real world operations: you ask suspect to drop their gun before shooting and you only shoot if the suspect is shooting or clearly threatening to shoot you or an hostage.

I've already recommended Unreal Tournament with the Infiltration mod. If you still didn't try it out, do it now.

Operation Flashpoint was an interesting realistic military shooter. The developers recently released Armed Assault, which also looks quite good.

X-Operations is an excellent japaenese freeware FPS. The graphics are extremely simple, but the gameplay is terrific. There's also a multiplayer version.

Outcast is an excellent action/adventure game. It may have aged a bit, but the atmosphere is excellent.
Omicron/the Nomad Soul is quite the same. There are some rather bad FPS sequences, but other than that the game is really interesting.

Bloodnet is really old (DOS game), but I think you might enjoy it. It's an 80's cyberpunk point&click RPG with some vampires inside. The interface takes a little time to get used to (well, actually the whole game does) but it's worth it. Just get something to write down your progress to avoid getting lost with all the quests.

Dreamweb is also a cyberpunk DOS game. It's not a RPG but an unusual point&click game. The atmosphere is excellent and extremely gritty. Just refrain from taking everything that isn't nailed down, or you won't get very far.

Hope that helps.
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post Dec 22 2007, 11:05 PM
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OMG . I almost forgot to mention Dystopia, which is another mod for Half-life 2. Team-Fortress style gameplay, cyberpunk feel. extremely well done, even for something in v1.
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post Dec 22 2007, 11:27 PM
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I love the Orange Box. I mean, I realize Half-Life's reputation is such that even bothering to bring it up almost feels kind of silly-- really, its reputation speaks for itself-- but it really is a great value for your gaming dollar. The best thing about Half-Life 2 is that despite the fact that it's a good looking game, it actually was surprisingly easy to run when it first came out. A $1,000 modern PC with a decent GPU will run that baby flawlessly and put a smile on your face.
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post Dec 23 2007, 04:15 AM
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NWN1.

No, really.

Go get the latest edition. Platinum or Emerald or whatever the hell it is. The one with the original campaign, Shadows of Urdentide, Hordes of the Underdark and the other expansions (whatever they may be).

Then, go to http://nwvault.ign.com and mod the hell out of it. Do whatever. And play.

Or don't mod.

But play.

Especially play the following usermade mods (after playing at least Hordes of the Underdark): Shadowlords, Dreamcatcher, Demon (in that order); Penultima, Penultima ReRolled, Elegia Eternum (first two in that order, third whenever -- first two are hilarious, third is absolutely wonderful storytelling).
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post Dec 23 2007, 05:28 AM
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My favs: Battlefield 1942, Knight of the Old Republic (1 and 2), Bioshock, Civ 4, STALKER.
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post Dec 23 2007, 06:15 AM
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Lets see, Crysis is a great game if your computer can handle on medium or high settings (which you should be able to do.. some settings on high at least). The play isn't always the best, but it looks amazing.

Got to agree with Orange box, great deal with plenty of great games.

You might like Vampires: Mascerade. It is a bit of an old RPG. Make sure you download the unoffical patch. You can find the actual game on Steam for like $15 or something so won't set you back much.

Overlord was fun, kinda like the evil version of that pikmin game for the gamecube.

Lets see... what else...?

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. Great graphics, great gameplay, great overall game.

Oh, also have to restate Bioshock. The game looks great, and is fairly chalenging if you don't rely on constant respawning to beat it, at least your first times though.

That is all I can think of off hand. Enjoy your computer and games.
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post Dec 23 2007, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE (Tanka)
Especially play the following usermade mods (after playing at least Hordes of the Underdark): Shadowlords, Dreamcatcher, Demon (in that order); Penultima, Penultima ReRolled, Elegia Eternum (first two in that order, third whenever -- first two are hilarious, third is absolutely wonderful storytelling).

Penultima and Rerolled had me laughing so hard it actually broke me out of a post-break up depression.
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post Dec 23 2007, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE (DTFarstar)
Critias, Ghost Recon games are, if I remember correctly, third-person military shooters, not first,

The original Ghost Recon, published in 2000, is indeed a First Person Shooter.
Today it can usually be found in a really cheap bundle with its two add-ons.
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post Dec 23 2007, 09:38 AM
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In case you're interested in Real Time Strategy I can only recommend the Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War series - consisting of Dawn of War (core game), Winter Assault (add-on) and Dark Crusade (standalone add-on).

The first actually good video game implementation of the WH40k franchise and IMHO the best RTS game since StarCraft (disclaimer: I don't play fantasy- or WWII-themed RTS games so I can't comment on their quality).
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post Dec 24 2007, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (toturi)
QUOTE (Tanka @ Dec 23 2007, 12:15 PM)
Especially play the following usermade mods (after playing at least Hordes of the Underdark): Shadowlords, Dreamcatcher, Demon (in that order); Penultima, Penultima ReRolled, Elegia Eternum (first two in that order, third whenever -- first two are hilarious, third is absolutely wonderful storytelling).

Penultima and Rerolled had me laughing so hard it actually broke me out of a post-break up depression.

I might just reinstall NWN1 to replay those games. They were a blast.
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post Dec 24 2007, 01:27 PM
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Speaking of NWN, is #2 worth getting?
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post Dec 24 2007, 11:50 PM
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Fortune, now that its been patch and patched and expanded, yes. For a while it was one of those "Why is this so buggy?!" games.

1500 buck today will get you a pretty respectable rig, so Im going to assume it will run Crysis and the other newer high end stuff.

Orange Box: is by FAR and away the best bang for your gaming buck. Now where is my damm cake.

TES: IV Oblivion: Literally DAYS of game play and a modding community that makes it all that much better.

Prey: Older now, but still fantastic.

WH 40k: Dark Crusade: Since its stand alone, if you dont intend on doing much multiplayer its a great buy (you need the other game to play most of it online). I assure you, you will be adopting at least one teams battle cry.
M¥ST1C is right, its odds are the best RTS since Starcraft.
Bioshock: Such a good game.

Max Payne (1 & 2): Old now, but the story line and art style are just too good to pass up. Plus it plays far better on PC then it ever did on the console.

Call of Duty 4: Eh, it depends. I found the single player game FAR too short, and since I have the orange box (and thus TF2) I dont care that much about the multiplayer. But its got some great stuff in it.

JA 2: If for some amazing chance you can find the boxed edition insted of the steam edition, get it. I still play it even nearly 10 years after it was released.

And pretty much everything Black Isle ever did. Long Life the Kings, or something like that.
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post Dec 25 2007, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (Lindt)
Fortune, now that its been patch and patched and expanded, yes. For a while it was one of those "Why is this so buggy?!" games.

Cool, thanks. :)

On another note, I know I don't play many games, but am I totally out of the loop when I say ...

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What the hell is this? :D
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post Dec 25 2007, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
Speaking of NWN, is #2 worth getting?

Yes. Except the current camera controls blow. Though I think there's a way to bring them back to the old way, which is far superior.

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QUOTE (Lindt @ Dec 25 2007, 09:50 AM)
Fortune, now that its been patch and patched and expanded, yes.  For a while it was one of those "Why is this so buggy?!" games.

Cool, thanks. :)

On another note, I know I don't play many games, but am I totally out of the loop when I say ...

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What the hell is this? :D

Half Life 2 Episode 2, Half Life 2 Episode 1, Half Life 2, Team Fortress 2, Portal, and all the various other things that came with HL2 and HL2:Ep1 when they were first released.
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post Dec 25 2007, 12:53 AM
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Ah! Again, thanks. :)
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post Dec 25 2007, 03:48 AM
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i haven't played Portal yet, but from what i've seen and heard... wow. and F.E.A.R. is good--fun, and it actually manages to be pretty scary.
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post Dec 25 2007, 06:31 AM
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Thanks, guys. I'll probably be getting this stuff soon from amazon.com. I am applying for overseas jobs so it makes sense to cram in all the gaming goodness I can while I'm in the US and can easily recieve shipments from amazon.
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post Dec 25 2007, 06:58 AM
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QUOTE (DTFarstar)
How do you feal about RTS games?

Uh, well, I haven't played them that much. I will confess that I've played a little bit of Command and Conquer, Starcraft, and that Warcraft where in one level you play the role of the invisible sexy purple elf. But, I didn't like those so much. I felt like there was too much emphasis on quickly clicking and trying to build things than on classical strategy per se.

I liked Dune 2, actually, but probably just because of the setting. ;)
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post Dec 25 2007, 07:43 AM
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JA 2: If for some amazing chance you can find the boxed edition insted of the steam edition, get it. I still play it even nearly 10 years after it was released.

IIRC I could get the boxed edition quite easily from amazon.com. And I've been getting absolutely astounding gameplay from the 1.13 mod community. Check ja-galaxy-forum.com.
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post Dec 26 2007, 09:15 AM
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I'll add that the UFO:AfterX series of games isn't really worth it. and that UFO: Extraterrestrials is worth even less.

Silent storm and the expansion are ok, at least until the power armor shows up.

On NWN2:

The default campaign is ok. But from what I remember, it pushed you toward lawful good or chaotic evil in its offered choices. Also, the game is basically impossible to play on 'full realism settings' where AOE spells damage friendly targets. Your AI team-mates spam AOE spells at their own feet (Qara is especially bad about this, as she is a sorcerer, so you can't control what spells she casts), and even if you could, the camera and ranges involved means that you are almost always fighting at point blank range anyway. I'd assume that they fixes the AI AOE spell problem in one of the patches. Some of the companions are pretty good, and you can leave the worst of them in a hole somewhere. There are some balance problems, in the magic items you can make for yourself are about 3x as good as any of the items you can find.

I liked Dawn of war and it's spin offs, but didn't like is spiritual successor Company of Heroes. In Dawn of war you can put down around 100+ guys with something like 4-0 vehicles in support. In CoH you can put down around 20 guys with a pair of tanks in support, in addition the single player campaign of CoH has some blitheringly stupid missions.

Since I don't think anyone has mentioned it Republic Commando is worth a look, mostly because it's a squad based FPS [b]that actually makes your squad useful for something[b]. Your mates are not just useless noise makers that issue you one suicidal suggestion after another. If you manage them well, you can spend most of the time hiding behind the a crate, letting them do all the work, which gets a big thumbs up from me.

I'll also recommend against hellgate: london. It seems that just before the demon apocalypse, London received a massive shipment of breakable crates containing goodies and barrels that explode when shot.

WinSPMBT and WinSPWW2 are both worth a look, and both of them are available free (paying for them gets you higher resolutions, map and scenario editors, and some other bells as whistles).

As for RPGs, the pickings are slimmer. Jade Empires was pretty good. Oblivion and Morrowwind probably both fit into your timeline. I think Morrowwind was probably the better game of the two. But I still enjoyed Oblivion, though a very large part of that enjoyment was basically spent walking in the woods picking flowers. The storyline in Oblivion is pretty weak. The art direction in Morrowwind is much much better.

Soldiers of Anarchy might be worth a look, I've seen some positive reviews, but I couldn't find a copy of it.

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